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All of the info about why added sugar is unhealthy compared to fruits seems to be that the sugar in fruit comes with fibre and nutrients that offset the negative health impacts of sugar to a degree by delaying its absorption and preventing a blood sugar spike.

However, by this reasoning alone, wouldn't it be possible to infer that if added sugar was paired with the same amount of fibre and nutrients, its effects could be mitigated in the same way as they are in fruit?

Well I haven't found any evidence either supporting or negating this idea or anyone even talking about that question specifically aside from a few other people asking the same thing, and random people replying without citing any evidence. For example someone suggested that indeed taking this approach may work a little bit, but it still won't be as healthy as eating fruit due to the "fibre-infused food matrix" of fruit or that sugar that is found naturally in fruits is "complexed" with fiber that slows down the absorption more, whereas the added sugar is more freely available to absorb quickly because it's separate from the fibre even if eaten together with it (though the separate fibre will still do some of the same job but not as well)?

"It can slow the absorption of sugar slightly but won't make a huge difference. Sugar from wholefruit and veg will always be processed differently due to the food matrix the sugars contained in that must be vroken down resulting in a slow and gradual release, when u eat added sugar but just have some fiber all that sugar is still there readily available to absorb. Overall it would be better to just stick to fruit and eat mixed macro meals with healthy unsaturated fats and proteins"

Well if possible I would like to see some scientific evidence/studies talking specifically about the difference on the body between consuming whole fruits containing their natural sugar and fibre + nutrients, compared to consuming added sugar along with foods containing fibre and nutrients in equivalent amounts (such as bircher muesli with added palm sugar, or another example if necessary for the sake of equalizing the fibre+nutrients content), and ideally health outcome data showing there is actually a difference between these...

And just more information in general about the idea of naturally occurring sugar and fibre contained together in a single food matrix being different/more healthy than added sugar taken together with separate fibre foods.

Thanks

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Holy crap, don't get your dietary advice from this place apparently.

[–] Reddfugee42 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean I get it but try to be constructive. Commenting "this is wrong" and then walking away is the pure dietary sugar of discussions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The advice is wank, from people who don't know jack about this. And yes, I know - I don't, either. That is why I don't try to answer questions on hugely complicated fields I don't know. Almost nobody even considered posting a source for anything and that is a huge red flag in a question that is basically about science.

Given that the advice is off-topic, wrong, potentially risky or some combination, I am not wrong about the general sentiment. If you wanted me to phrase it some other way, maybe you could've been more, uh, constructive.

After all, commenting “this is the pure dietary sugar of discussions” and then walking away is the pure dietary sugar of discussions.

[–] Reddfugee42 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Specifically, if you're positive something is wrong, I don't think it's a big ask if you're going to be commenting already to include the part that's wrong 🤷‍♂️ honestly not trying to be a dick about it, just sayin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I was just expressing surprise at exactly how shit this health-related, science-related advice was, and consequently what a bad idea listening to it would be. It is not my field, as stated. Do I need to post a treatise to be able to say "whoa, that's not how good advice looks"?

Sorry you didn't find it constructive, I don't find this productive or constructive or any other metaphor either. Guess you can't please everyone.