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Defund the War Machine (hilariouschaos.com)
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[–] mojofrododojo 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Defund israel all you want. But leave Ukraine funding alone, they're defending their land against russian invaders and deserve our support.

SLAVA UKRAINE!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

this is how a lot of "conservatives" feel but reversed... instead we don't want to see either of these wars publicly funded while America's resources are strained...

[–] mojofrododojo 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Oh, you speak for conservatives huh?

Then wake up: the vote for Ukraine aid was damn near down the middle. Once again, you don't even know what your own party wants. And the american people, who they're supposed REPRESENT, you know, as REPRESENTATIVES, feels overwhelmingly that the US should aid Ukraine.

SO I think you should say: half of my party voted against aiding Ukraine, but the other half voted for it. Because THAT HALF AREN'T SIMPING FOR PUTIN.

As a footnote, I find this "don’t want to see either of these wars publicly funded" - hilarious. Fuck that bullshit. Conservatives dragged the nation to war with Iraq over specious, ridiculous bullshit, and you want to suddenly espouse this? Constrained resources? Bush dragged us into Iraq while we were still hunting Bin Laden.

Your hypocrisy and self ignorance are boundless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You need an internet break. Please calm down

[–] mojofrododojo 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

jawol mein modscheiss!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't bring Deutschland into this

[–] mojofrododojo 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Aren't you getting a bit emotional about this? Please calm down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Please calm down from telling me to calm down

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

half of my party voted against aiding Ukraine

Yes, that is our half, the conservatives

you want to suddenly espouse this?

We have been espousing this consistently since (and against) Iraq, it is the policy of non-interventionism. The neo-"conservatives" are the ones who want the aggressive wars and to be "world police"

[–] mojofrododojo 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah like the isolationists in 1940, yeah, that's a great look.

yeah, somehow you're even worse.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think warmongering is a better look, or that WW2 couldn't have been resolved contrary to non-interventionist policy, as it was the dominant U.S. policy up until that time: https://infogalactic.com/info/United_States_non-interventionism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Supporting Ukrainian freedom to prevent Europe spiraling into WW3 isn't war mongering.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do you think possibly waging war by the U.S. being involved with Ukraine would make WW3 more likely? That's what a lot of people think contrarily

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I think it makes it less likely. If the Kremlin is stopped in Ukraine it makes it unlikely they'll continue their aggression.

The comparison many people make to Czechoslovakia in 1939 is appropriate.

[–] mojofrododojo 3 points 8 months ago

I think you are a pogue who's willing to sell women and children to Putin if it makes your life a tiny bit simpler.

Despicable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

America's funds going to Ukraine wouldn't be straining our resources if we also defunded our own wars against various nations who haven't done anything to us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

true... defund them all!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I honestly think the worst thing for the Ukraine right now is more funds to fight a war that they basically cannot win.

It's completely lost.

They need to negotiate for a peace - not pour $61 billion trying to arm those unwilling to fight who are hiding and shirking from responsibility, sending them headlong into meat grinders to go and fight for the Donbass....

The Donbass which arguably didn't want to be part of Ukraine 3 years ago, and which definitely is a wartorn hellhole right now that has become the de facto home for Ukrainians who fled there that were against the Kiev government.

It's a really wild situation, pal, and prolonging this war will only bring countless more dead.

Russia is not getting pushed out.

[–] mojofrododojo 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia is not getting pushed out.

they're literally filling ditches with meat and fields with dead soviet retreads. russia is getting it's shit pushed in bud. Russia has lost over 3500 officers in just a couple of years. Russia is going to get kicked out of Ukraine, Crimea and maybe even Georgia, bet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure, bud: the situation is so bright that the local Ukrainians are attacking the recruiters that come to their regions because they don't want to see more of their men forcibly conscripted and sent to die.

Check it out.

These aren't unique videos, either: every few days there's a new video of what's going on with recruiters in Ukraine.

This is also exactly why Russia fights the war in this way: attrition is their best friend, especially now, even more tomorrow, and as the months drag on, it becomes more desperate.