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[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how you think it contradicts what I'm saying, but I'm waiting for your scientific definition of breed, please.

[–] John_McMurray 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's really obvious if you read it.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I did read it. It says there's no scientific definition. You said there is. So what is it?

[–] John_McMurray 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it has no scientific definition, it has no scientific definition. The fact that you can't provide one is good evidence. The fact that the thing you are telling me to read says so is much better evidence.

[–] John_McMurray 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What part of this did I not read?

Despite the centrality of the idea of "breeds" to animal husbandry and agriculture, no single, scientifically accepted definition of the term exists.[3]: 340  A breed is therefore not an objective or biologically verifiable classification but is instead a term of art amongst groups of breeders who share a consensus around what qualities make some members of a given species members of a nameable subset.

[–] John_McMurray 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the whole thing. Either that or you don't know what it means. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7925393/ you should tell these guys what they study and track don't exist.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Still waiting for that scientific definition of breed. That link doesn't have it and the thing you've told me to read more than once literally says it is a term of art, not scientific.

[–] John_McMurray 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're gonna be waiting a long time unless you start comprehending what you're shown. Like seriously, are you really this oblivious or just playing?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's pretend I'm this oblivious. That way you can give me the scientific definition of 'breed.'

[–] John_McMurray 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's pretend you're not missing the fucking point entirely, and sickle cell anemia isn't only a problem for one race.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You were talking about breed, not race. You claimed breed was a scientific term. Please give the scientific definition.

[–] John_McMurray 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Did I? Where? Seems to me I said they exist.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Me: “Race” has no biological definition. Star Wars fans can be a race if you want them to.

You: Why not pretend breeds of horses don’t exist while you’re at it?

https://lemmy.world/comment/9511019

So if you didn't mean that breed had a scientific definition, why bring it up when discussing race's scientific definition?

[–] John_McMurray 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They track heritable disease frequency by race, which obviously exists scientifically being that. you act like 23 and me doesn't exist. "race doesn't exist" vs "DNA says this was a (whatver race)"

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not an answer.

I will paste what I wrote again. Please either answer my question or give the scientific definition of breed:

Me: “Race” has no biological definition. Star Wars fans can be a race if you want them to.

You: Why not pretend breeds of horses don’t exist while you’re at it?

https://lemmy.world/comment/9511019

So if you didn’t mean that breed had a scientific definition, why bring it up when discussing race’s scientific definition?

[–] John_McMurray -1 points 8 months ago

Your race is insufferable pedantic moron.