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[–] cosmicrookie 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You say that all have the same power but Its never the small countries vetoing the big questions though.

Its always USA , China or Russia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions

[–] force 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

He didn't say all nations have the same power in the UN. He said the opposite. Read the comment before you reply to it

"Like it or not, a UN where Monaco and the US (...) have the same power at the table is a UN where the big players reject its authority and form their own clubs."

[–] cosmicrookie 3 points 8 months ago

Ah I see. I misread. It still stands though that to bring the big guys to the table, we give them the chance to have it their way and therefore get nowhere with the big questions

[–] TheBat 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Only permanent members of UNSC have veto powers.

[–] cosmicrookie 3 points 8 months ago

So the only way to get the big guys to the table is by giving them the option to have it their way by force

I know that there are pro's and cons to this but IMO its too much power

Critics say that the veto is the most undemocratic element of the UN,[5] as well as the main cause of inaction on war crimes and crimes against humanity, as it effectively prevents UN action against the permanent members and their allies.[6]

(From wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power)

[–] mkwt 6 points 8 months ago

Only the five permanent members have a veto power on the security council. USA, China, Russia, UK, and France.

No one else has the power to veto.

In fact, I think grandparent was talking about a hypothetical and counterfactual world where every nation had the same powers at the UN.

[–] itsnotits 0 points 8 months ago
  • it's* never the small countries
  • It's* always the USA