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[–] Holyhandgrenade 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I find that whenever I go to metal shows, most people are very kind, polite and free of bigotry. Maybe what you're describing is a US thing, or maybe it's just that Metallica is a super mainstream band which attracts more dickheads than your average metal show.
I know metalheads have a history of gatekeeping, and keeping these fascists away from the scene should be priority #1.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 25 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I can only offer what I experienced at the show I attended. Metallica was touring with Five Finger Death Punch, a very much right-wing "military rock" band that just sucks IMO. They straight up dog whistled the right wingers in the crowd using a lot of "there's something wrong in this country" type of commentary. Metallica bringing them on tour doesn't really change my growing opinion that Metallica supports right wing ideology. My understanding of the greater Metal crowd is that they are indeed good people, I went to an Industrial Metal concert a few weeks back and it was free of the iconography I saw at the Metallica show, and everyone was great. We had a good time. It was also the loudest show I think I've ever been to. Thank goodness for earplugs, lol.

[–] CyanideShotInjection 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I just read "Five Finger Death Punch" and automatically thought "Ahhh there you go..." lol

[–] VindictiveJudge 8 points 7 months ago

Let's not forget that time their singer tried to murder his wife.

[–] ShunkW 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, Kirk Hammet literally wore swastika shirts back in the day. I used to be a huge Metallica fan boy when I was younger but eesh.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShunkW 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think it was either before Metallica, or early days. I've tried to find a picture, but they've done a good job of scrubbing it from the Internet. I know my source is "trust me bro" at this point lol, but I swear I've seen it multiple times years ago

[–] RememberTheApollo_ -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You’re right, it’s not to be found. Eh, after a little poking around they did a nazi salute, too. You can still see that image. Be willing to bet the swastika and salute were both “fuck you” for lols and not any personal affiliation.

E:typo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Which creates a space where people with personal affiliations get away with it and gather. And then when called out on their shit, tell the "for the lulz" crowd that people are coming for their freedom.

[–] endhits 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've never understood the popularity of FFDP. "War is the Answer" is their best album by a heavy margin and it's just... Fine? Like it's listenable, I can listen to it without being bored. At the end of the day it makes me wish I was listening to Avenged Sevenfold, Shinedown, or Killswitch Engage.

But the rest of their music is unbelievably boring. Their covers of other people's music is their best work, probably because they can't write interesting music.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 7 months ago

It’s performative. That’s why.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds about right for James Hetfield. When off stage the dude is one of those Mossy Oak weirdos.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 7 months ago

The clothing/camo? I’ve only ever seen him in California motorcycle kit - all black, Maltese crosses, flat-brimmed ball cap, etc.