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[–] coffeebiscuit 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The fuck is “fast gaming”. And what games demand this?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would guess that since it mentions teleconferencing and gaming, that they want to create low-latency fast-lanes.

But they also mention TikTok, so I am not completely sure that they are referring to latency.

This article isn't very good at explaining what they're talking about on a technical level.

[–] coffeebiscuit 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Reading trough all the marketing terms used. I’m more afraid of selective slowing down connections instead of the mentioned “speeding up” connections.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Yeah they won't speed up shit, that requires investment in infrastructure. They'll just slow down all existing lanes by 40%, blame it on something unrelated, and then charge you 2.5x as much as you used to pay to get your original speeds back.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Don't do that. Don't read through them. Let that shit be.

Also don't help your "non-tech-savvy" relatives and friends with crap you've told them before you don't use. They think it's fine and normal until they are left alone to deal with it. "But how will I use Facebook?.. I dunno, don't use it myself, can't help you".

The reason crap is popular is also because we the relatively savvy people have conditioned normies to think that they choose what to use and we'll just help them with everything, but the authority who tells what's good and what isn't is not us, it's Google and Apple and other shitmakers.

No free IT help without representation, I say. Which means that I'll help them if they suddenly want to become Linux users. Or something else I can respect. But not with things I've never advised them to use in the first place, quite the contrary. I'm for adult usage of the Web, with normies accepting responsibility for their own choices.

EDIT: This butthurt comment meant that we shouldn't wait for normies to abandon all that. Leading by example. Like with ICQ being abandoned in favor of Skype. Network effect isn't real (... anymore with enshittification negating it fully), it can't hurt you.

EDIT2: And I know it's offtopic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I agree with you, I usually tell relatives to call their isp and scream at them. It's usually stuff I could probably help with but if the isp gets more hell they might change for the better.

[–] Plopp 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yo TikTok with a latency higher than 2 ms is completely unusable trash!

Or under 2 ms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have a hard time believing that since TikTok is such a popular mobile app, and 4G users are going to have a minimum of 200ms latency over-the-air.

5G does offer much faster over-the-air latency of only 1ms, but if TikTok were to become unusable if the latency between tower and server exceeds 1ms, I would expect to hear widespread complaints about that, as the vast majority of users aren't going to have <2ms latency between them and the server. Pinging TikTok.com from my 5G handset (in a major metro area) shows a latency of 80ms. Admittedly, AWS and GCP, where TikTok hosts content primarily for US users, likely has better latency. My personal experience with those platforms doesn't suggest that it would be that good- pinging the cloudfront CDN endpoints associated with my account, I get latency between 40-60ms.

Besides, video streaming shouldn't be affected by latency, only throughput. TikTok videos are just MP4 files on a CDN, as long as you can download them faster than you can play them, high latency shouldn't even be noticeable to the user, outside of initial load times for latency exceeding a few hundred ms (up to a second or so delay if establishing a fresh TCP connection, depending on the latency).

Maybe TikTok Live could be an issue, but its a one-way channel so a delay shouldn't be noticeable like it would be with a 2-way teleconference. Maybe if there was high jitter or packet loss, the stream could have extremely low quality.

[–] Plopp 1 points 7 months ago

If you read my comment again you might realize it's a joke about TikTok being trash.

[–] V4sh3r 5 points 7 months ago

Low latency matters a lot more than bandwidth in any game that isn't turn based.