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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you going to blame Biden for the conservative majority on the Supreme court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson as well?

Do me a favor and google "Anita Hill". Then google what the chair of the senate judiciary does

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So Biden confirmed Clarence Thomas because he knew that decades later, he would be president and the president before him would confirm three ultra-conservative justices so that he could avoid culpability when they overthrew Roe v. Wade? Is that what you're claiming?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Im claiming that Biden spent decades in the senate enabling the radical right's rise to power. Some of that was from incompetence, some was from anti-Black and anti-arab racism. Some of it was because the neoliberal policies he supports aren't that different from what 'fiscal conservatives' want.

Biden has had a hand in most of the disastrous policies of the last 30 years - from putting sexist pieces of shit in SCOTUS and drastically expanding the prison population, to invading Iraq and drastically expanding the surveillance state.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Weird that you're blaming Biden for the overturning of Roe v. Wade and not the presidents who appointed the justices who overturned it...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Of course Reagan and the Bushes deserve a lot the blame. But none of them are currently president, and Biden built his career on bipartisanship - even more than his democratic peers. He was there at every step that set the stage for Trump's appointments that were the final nails in the coffin

I've never been supportive of, you know, "it's my body, I can do what I want with it.

  • Biden in the year 2024
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And now I know you're dishonest by taking that quote out of context:

I asked Biden what he would do in a second term to protect abortion access at the federal level. “Pass Roe v. Wade as the law of the land,” he said. Democrats would need to win control of the House of Representatives and gain seats in the Senate, but Biden expressed confidence. “A few more elections like we’ve seen taking place in the states” would suffice, he said. “You’re seeing the country changing.” Then, reiterating his position on Roe, he said, “I’ve never been supportive of, you know, ‘It’s my body, I can do what I want with it.’ But I have been supportive of the notion that this is probably the most rational allocation of responsibility that all the major religions have signed on and debated over the last thousand years.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/11/joe-biden-profile

A simple Google search showed me the context. If you're going to be dishonest, do it better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The context does not make it any better. He is stating his sincerely held belief as a conservative Catholic. He is stating his belief that had guided his policymaking for decades. It's why he was blindsided by the Dobbs decision. Yes, he supports access to abortion, but as the quote shows, it's always been more about realpolitik than a sincere belief in the right to abortion

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, it doesn't make it any better... if you ignore the “Pass Roe v. Wade as the law of the land" part. He's saying that abortion should be legal even if he personally isn't in favor of it.

Why does he personally have to be in favor of it? Why do his personal feelings matter more than what he thinks should be legal?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

His personal feelings help explain the decisions he made over the years, such as deciding that Anita Hill was a liar

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago

What part of him saying abortion needs to be legal are you missing here?

Also, what do his personal feelings on abortion have to do with Anita Hill?

You're not making any sense.

I get that you don't like Biden. That's fine. I don't like him much either. But that's not a reason to be irrational and take quotes out of context.