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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I have a destitute extended family member who, in a move the whole family cautioned them against, spent most of the last money they had on a "partially" completed conversion van.

The money and collective effort that it has taken to get it to basic habitability killed any remnants of my college-age desire to set up a van myself.

[–] LordKitsuna 7 points 10 months ago

To be fair, people spend WAY more than they should on those conversions. People have it dead set that they must use RV parts or they must stick to 12 volt because it's a vehicle for the electrical or they must use certain types of this or that and they end up spending 10 times more than if they just looked elsewhere.

Let's talk about electricity first, one of the most common names you're going to see is battleborn for batteries and victron for inverters. They are not bad companies, but they are like the apple of that world. Wildly overpriced for what you're getting, they might be nice, they might be shiny, and they have a good ecosystem but you're paying out the ass for it.

I can get almost 4x the capacity of a battleborn battery for the same price by just looking at 48 V home solar batteries instead. You don't need to be 12 volt just because you're in a vehicle, the solar / 120 power doesn't need to be connected to the vehicle's power they can be entirely separate.

You don't need an RV AC cartridge, you can just get a MRCOOL DIY mini split heatpump, pay a fraction of the cost AND be easier to install and seal. The list here goes on and and on, I have actually done multiple conversions and trust me you don't need to spend the $60k-$100k+ on it like you see a lot of people do. 8k-10k for a good stepvan (the old ups/FedEx diesels are great and reliable, but if you can find a propane motor JUMP ON IT, avoid the ford gas motors) and about another $20k on getting it all setup for actual daily living.

Yes 30k is still a lot of money, but this is for full offgrid life with solar and battery as well to live like normal with normal appliances and daily use. If you can survive more limited electric you can lower the cost a lot as the solar/battery/inverter/mounting to fit that many panels (has to be a stacked fold out awning if you want a full 16 panel 6kw array) is about $13k of that.

All the rest, water tanks, heater, lights, plumbing etc, can be had practically for free if you know what to look for. Mainly the pull behind mini popup campers. The tarping on them goes bad all the time, people sell them on Facebook Marketplace for like $200 to $500 you grab it, rip out all the goddies for your build, take the rest to the dump (or scrap yard if it's an aluminum build)

I'm not saying it's luxurious or even that it's particularly super cheap, but it's very doable it's just that everyone is getting their information from the rich kids doing it for clout