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[–] FlyingSquid 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] bhmnscmm 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a really interesting article. I didn't know there were so many benefits to solar panels over crops.

However, I don't see how growing crops under panels could become widespread.

National Renewable Energy Laboratory estimate that if just 1 million acres of farmland was covered in solar panels, the nation would meet its renewable energy goals.

For reference, Iowa alone has over 35 million acres of farmland. Solar panels are almost too efficient to cover a meaningful amount of farmland.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Iowa, eh. You could plant some trees as windbreak to stop erosion. Wide enough apart to still drive harvesters through, dense enough to provide shade.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This entire concept has been studied extensively in China, and the conclusion has been that the yield is vastly overclaimed when solar panels are deployed on productive soil.

See: CCTV exposes 8 million RMB solar farm built on prime farmland, leads to plummeting rice yields

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You'll excuse me if I don't believe a PRC source posted on lemmy.ml.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Lol, this is funny for now but it's gonna become a real problem eventually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your claim is that... China has incentive to reduce deployments of solar panels by criticizing the deployment of solar panels over agricultural land? We're talking about the same China, right? World leader in solar panel production, being criticized by American and European leaders for overcapacity in solar panel production? I just want to make sure we're on the same page here.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My claim is that I don't see any reason to believe a PRC news source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your claim is that a PRC news source wants people to deploy less solar panels.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, my claim is a PRC news source is not trustworthy.

If you want to show me a source that discusses this issue from a media outlet that isn't state-controlled, feel free to do so and I will read it.

I do not give my time to state-controlled media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

BBC? CBC? NPR? RFA? Al Jazeera?

What, exactly, do you think the incentive is for a PRC news source to discourage solar panel adoption?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Neither the BBC nor NPR are state-run media.

State-funded is not the same. You're being dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Jeez my bad the government responsive for legislating the sale of my broadcast rights has no oversight into the operations of my media company. Silly me.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago

Being sarcastic about your dishonesty makes it no less dishonest.

But feel free to give me some examples of the U.S. government interfering with NPR's programming.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a matter of course I don't trust things that China says.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

What's the incentive structure for which China would want people to deploy fewer solar panels?