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I'm thinking of getting a second phone to ease off iOS. It has been good for productivity stuff but the closed off nature of the device keeps disrupting my plans. Everything is either expensive or ad ridden. (Except floccus, floccus is awesome)

So far I have read about graphene OS and am quite interested. I really despise google though. Any chance to use another device and put some linux flavor on it? I was playing with the idea of a pinephone but it seems to be nowhere near daily drivable, fairphone is starting at 580 €, volla phone (german) 450 €...

Some people said xiaomi should be rootable. But the amount of different phones is huge. The price range is awesome though. I was thinking sub 300 €/$ would be awesome so tinkering doesnt hurt me financially.

Disclaimer: I dont want to go full hermit mode with no sim and a faraday bag. I respect the opinion but thats not what I'm trying to do. I want to write some small apps for my phone and use it as a computer if needed. Calling, matrix and browser should work flawlessly.

Any ideas or suggestions? :)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

A alternative to fairphone would be https://www.shift.eco/en/ They want to put killswitches into their new Phone which you can preorder for 535€ https://shop.shiftphones.com/shiftphone-8.html

It won't be as secure as a Pixel with GrapheneOS. Grapheneos won't support that Phone officially.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Jesus. $100 for a pixel or $600 for this. Hmmmmm

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, buying an used Pixel 8 or a 8a is what I would suggest. Its sustainable and doesn't fund Google.

But their phone has some unique, inreresting features, like that Killswitches, 512 GB, expandable up to 2 TB with micro SDXC card, 12 GB LPDDR RAM, Electro-scrap positive thanks to the cooperation with our partner Closing the Loop, Designed in Germany/Falkenberg and fairly manufactured in our own factory in China , modular, easy replacement of Battery that has a standard format also used in other products from them,

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Designed in Germany/Falkenberg and fairly manufactured in our own factory in China

That sounds like a red flag from a security perspective. If you own the factory and everything in it, then why even have it in China? And who is being hired in this warehouse for this security/privacy phone in this Chinese factory?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

All the parts are in China already. There would be mad high tarrifs to get the parts shipped into Germany and then taxed again shipping to the customer.

The result would be the phone would cost 4x higher, easily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

how are you getting a pixel for 100 dollars lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ebay. I never spend more than $100 on a phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I'd vote against shift phones. Support is also a crucial part of what you're paying for and most of their communication on their website is in German, which doesn't tell much good about getting customer support in another language. Maybe they don't offer support in English or maybe very limited with longer waiting times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Very interesting! Thanks for mentioning it! :)