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A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse.

However, people also say that it will help get ActivityPub and the Fediverse go more mainstream and say that corporations don't have that much influence on the Fediverse since people are in control of their own servers.

What a lot of posts have in common is that they want some kind of action to be taken, whether it'd be mass defederating from Threads, or accept them in some way that does not harm the Fediverse as much.

What actions can we take to deal with Threads?

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[–] TempleSquare 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's a clear EEE attack. Do not federate!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Exactly, Threads will use the Fediverse to seed content and then start to drift from the standard when they have sufficient user base that they don't need the outside content. They will start to shift all communities to be Meta-hosted and stop advertising the others. Eventually they will just disconnect entirely.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. If I want to see "VIPs", influencers, ads or other crap like that I can still register an account over there. Also Meta's track record is horrible..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's not easy to make an account unless you port over your Instagram account. I attempted to make two separate accounts, and both were suspended instantly and I couldn't continue unless I uploaded a selfie. But I didn't really want to use my name ¯⁠\⁠(⁠◉⁠‿⁠◉⁠)⁠/⁠¯

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, but I'm a bit out of the loop, what is an EEE attack? When I look it up all I get is eastern equine encephalitis, which I somehow doubt is related.

[–] happy_saw 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I assume its Embrace, extend, and extinguish. Its something Microsoft is know for and this worried me when they started to "Embrace" Linux. However, I don't believe big tech can do much in terms of polluting open source and the fediverse.

I dont follow this much but I can see that these companies are investing into what they think the future could look like.

Might just be me...

[–] Philolurker 10 points 1 year ago

That's what they want you to think. (not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not)

Even if that's true, once they become a part of the ecosystem, they will start looking for ways to dominate it. That's just the nature of for-profit corporations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think you need to read too much into it.

If Meta concludes that federated platforms or activitypub may one day start to eat their lunch, then the clear and obvious first step to any strategy is to have some sort of presence in the fediverse.

Honestly that's as far as you need to go for the moment. Grab some market share and then avail yourself of opportunities as they arise.

Perhaps it will be EEE, perhaps something else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Check out how XMPP was killed

[–] emperorbenguin 2 points 1 year ago

This makes zero sense. There is no financial incentive for an EEE attack, and these companies don't do anything without financial incentive.

Your content isn't original or interesting enough for meta to want it, and even if they did, they already have access to it without federation.

Threads on its own already dwarfs the entirety of the global fediverse by orders of magnitude. Anyone screaming EEE is just fucking stupid.