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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17618684

Forced arbitration means any legal disputes you may have with Discord must be resolved through a single third party mediator, who 99% of the time is chosen by, and will rule in favor of, the corporation/Discord. This effectively removes all your legal rights as a consumer, because arbitration decisions are legally binding and non-appealable.

The new ToS goes into effect April 15th, 2024.

YOU CAN OPT OUT OF ARBITRATION. You must email [email protected] BEFORE MAY 15TH (30 days after ToS effective date) with your username stating that you wish to opt out of the arbitration clause. Once May 15th passes you are bound to arbitration with Discord forever.

Opt-out before it's too late.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tbh, more like Revolt Exodus,sadly.

While Matrix clearly is the superb system and I would absolutely love to see people to migrate to it, but I have a feeling that people will use the solution that comes the closest to what they are used to - which is revolt at this point.

But revolt,imho, is not quite there yet and would very likely collapse under the increasing pressure on their ressources, just like many Lemmy or Mastodon servers did back in the day - but revolt is far less decentralized.

Which would send people straight back to Discord.

A shame,really, Matrix is clearly the better system,but VoIP/Video/Community building is not quite there yet. It might be with Element X,but we will see. Maybe I am wrong and I would love to be wrong here - I actually operate a small Matrix server and it's a fantastic system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting: Revolt maybe open to federation, but not any priority (https://developers.revolt.chat/faq/federation). Also creates problems with privacy goal.

Maybe revolt interface with matrix backend (like matrix bridge, but other way around) could take pressure off revolt and onto matrix server? And i read about discord matrix bridge, maybe use to „export“ chat to matrix then use them in revolt? No clue of their system though if that could even work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The way I understood revolt their idea of federation was more between different Revolt instances, but it's not a hugely discussed topic over there.

The frontend would be no issue Matrix-wise, it's not that difficult to build a Discord like client for Matrix if the actual backend would support the necessary features - which currently is not the case.

The Bridge (I run one myself) is only good to use it as long as you use still Discord,so more for a migratory phase,yes. And technically it's against their TOS,so it could end up bad for larger communities.

Anyway, it's clear that at least FOSS projects should definitely not work with Discord as a repository or support channel anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The way I understood revolt their idea of federation was more between different Revolt instances, but it's not a hugely discussed topic over there.

Yes, also thought so.

The frontend would be no issue Matrix-wise, it's not that difficult to build a Discord like client for Matrix if the actual backend would support the necessary features - which currently is not the case.

No meant revolt (backend) talk to matrix (backend), not alt front end. Like for handle lot of user data on matrix side and revolt only sync when done processing. Thought maybe help with load balance away from revolt and onto many different matrix server.

Or bridge from matrix to revolt for similar purpose. Not too many user on revolt side, can offload user load to matrix and still connect large community. Or does bridge take same performance as process message as if on own server?

Anyway, it's clear that at least FOSS projects should definitely not work with Discord as a repository or support channel anymore.

Fuck that, discord not a forum. Black hole of information, opposite of what support channel need to be.