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Biden walks back sanctions on Israeli settlers following Smotrich's threat (archive.ph)

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Biden administration dramatically softens the sanctions it imposed on the seven Israelis from the Israel Defense Forces and makes it clear that they will be able to use their bank accounts.

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[–] NounsAndWords 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What’s your suggestion to make them listen to their base instead of chasing voters who have never voted D and just straight ticket vote R?

Split ticket voting. Local elections, local primaries, down ballot votes. We need a generational shift in party leadership. Party leaders generally start as smaller/more local candidates. If you have a strong roster of "up and coming" progressives winning primaries and elections those progressives get more power and sway in the party as they win bigger offices.

I think it would send largely the same message you want without the global harm to have Biden stuck with a Republican legislature. They are still bad, but Trump is the cult leader and the actual danger.

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But the party acts against them in primaries and AIPAC will put ridiculous money against them that their constituents will never be able to match, and they don't take shady PAC money to make up for it.

And in the House, there's so many seats in rural areas where even 20k to a PAC can but the election.

We've been trying that, and it's still not working fast enough.

The water is still rising and our lifeboat is still sinking.

[–] NounsAndWords -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And supporting Trump is like lighting the rest of the ship on fire so people will start paying attention to the problem.

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whose supporting trump?

[+] NounsAndWords -6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The people not voting against Trump.

[–] givesomefucks 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So the only option is the one that doesn't work?

And this is America, thanks to the electoral college, most of our votes don't really matter

Biden isn't winning my state even if I vote super hard for him. Voting for him accomplishes nothing for me or even Biden. But, if I don't vote for him (and still vote down ballot). There's a chance the DNC recognizes they need good candidates.

I'm not saying it will work, I'm saying there's a chance

And before you say "vote in the primary in 2028!". My state hasn't even held the 2024 primary yet...

So how can I communicate to the DNC?

I tried to take a survey from the DSCC the other day, turned out to be a fake survey that just pressured me to do ate money.

The DNC literally doesn't care about what voters want, they dont even want people saying it out loud because it hurts their chosen pick

How is that democracy to you?

It's better than republicans, but still not good enough. And it'll never change if we keep blindly voting D no matter what.

Unless you have a better plan

[–] Triasha -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is no plan in a democracy that resulted in "people do what I want to do." You could try a coup.

There are things you can do outside the ballot box. Unionize your workplace. (Or your apartment building, or your student body) create or join mutual aid societies. Volunteer for local organizations. Create and support power centers outside the government.

The political parties won't listen to singular people. Even billionaires, for all their wealth and power, struggle to get what they want from government in a timely manner.

Creating power centers like unions outside of the government creates a lever of power that can move things in the future.

Electoral politics is a game of inches. Refusing to play just cedes a few more inches to the opposition.

[–] givesomefucks 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There is no plan in a democracy that resulted in “people do what I want to do.”

Republicans wanted crazy money for a border wall.

trump shut down the government, trump got money for a border wall in like two weeks.

Biden got elected, and now the Dem president wants a border wall and rants about "illegals"...

Why would this work for republicans but not progressives to change the minds of moderate Dems like Biden?

Did you mean that just for progressive causes we can't change their minds, but they agree more with Republicans than progressives and that's why it works?

[–] Triasha 1 points 9 months ago

I don't think, in his heart of hearts, that Biden wants a border wall. I think he calls for one because it's politically expedient.

I think that progressives would get more done if they had the support that conservatives do. Gay marriage and the widespread adoption of police bodycams are two issues where progressives got their way because they had the support of the majority.

Conservatives have the advantage because doing nothing is easier than making changes. It takes more popular support for progressives to get their way.

I also think that most Dems are closer to Republicans than they are to socialists, so if by progressive you mean the DSA or left of that then the Dems would honestly prefer the Republicans.

So conservatives can get their way with 40-45% popular support, but progressives need 55-65%.

Details matter though, there are counter examples.