this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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With threads coming to the Fidiverse, I feel dirty and violated. I don't care about my posts being accessible from various instances, but I fucking don't want meta to use what I write, from my username to my subbed communites and such.

I leave in Europe where the app is not allowed right now. How can I protect myself from meta ?

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[–] DaniloT 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From what I understand about the fediverse, everything that Meta already knows about you and your content is going to remain the same. Federated or not, they will only have access to info you make public, and how much that is is entirely up to your instance. Even if Meta never wanted to join and federate with others, they could still scrape the same info and use as they see fit for training AI, duplicating posts or whatever.

So basically you don't have to do anything, Meta cannot demand any extra data from you that your instance owner does not want to share. If you are worried your instance owner might do some deal with Meta for your data, then you can better control that with self hosting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's really not the point. If the instance you post on is defederated from Threads and you create a valuable post (for example a lengthy review of some hardware) then Meta can't just copy your post and put it on their platform. It would be stealing/a copyright violation.

If Meta gets your content then they can (ab)use it. Put ads on it, charge to see it, mask it as their own content, whatever. So wanting to defederate from Meta is absolutely valid and if Meta steals your post you could force them to take it down.

Meta just reading the content to train AI.. not much you can do there. But putting your post up on their platform to serve to their users is a wholly different beast. Even when federated they would have to show your [email protected] and can't just say they created it.

[–] DaniloT 1 points 1 year ago

Unless i misunderstood, I believe the point of this post wasn't talking about defederating, it is asking about protecting the users data from Meta if federation happen, and for that point it is what I said, his data is as protected as before, federated or not, Meta won't get access to any extra data from being federated than it already has access to now.

Defederating is another entire discussion that is really up to the instance admin, self hosting is the only way to really guarantee anything if you want that much deep control of your data and fediverse experience.

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