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So people throw out disposable vapes all the time. I cracked one open to take a look and it turns out they have a 18500 battery in it. So I was thinking of 3D printing a spacer to make it the same size as a 18650 and putting some shrink wrap on them. I just wanted to see what people who know more than me think. Is this a bad idea that is going to burn my house down? a waste of time perhaps?

I did a trial run in my wurkkos fc11 and they seem to work, it charges and looks just as bright.

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[–] dr_jekell 9 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Just be wary of them as they are likely unprotected cells.

Batteries made for flashlights will have a protection circuit board on it to protect against over & under voltage and sometimes overheating.

Unprotected batteries do not have a circuit board on them and are usually protected by the device that they are installed into.

You can use them BUT you have to be incredibly careful with them as if things go wrong you will be holding what has essentially become a small pipe bomb.

[–] Cheese 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

protected by the device that they are installed into.

So if I charge them using the flashlight would that have the protection built in?

[–] dr_jekell 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No,

Lights designed for charging removable batteries will (usually) have charging circuit designed for protected batteries as they expect the battery to provide feedback on voltage, temps etc.

Random unprotected cells should be charged in an external charger in a fire resistant area and used extremely carefully in lights you don't mind loosing.

The only thing I would recommend for you to do is send them in for recycling.

[–] SammysHP 1 points 8 months ago

The protection circuit of a cylindrical Li-Ion battery doesn't report anything. All it can do is to interrupt the circuit if the current gets too high or the voltage too low.

You might mix this up with tool batteries that usually have multiple cells in a series and in parallel, monitored by a battery management system (BMS).

Most quality flashlights have an integrated low voltage protection. The protection PCB will only protect the battery when it's handled outside of the flashlight, but it will usually reduce the performance and efficiency due to the added resistance.

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