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Less than 10 years ago, Germany, and especially Berlin, was held up as a beacon of openness and inclusivity in a western world rocked by Brexit and Donald Trump. Angela Merkel’s decision to take in thousands of refugees displaced by the war in Syria boosted her country’s reputation in progressive circles, with many international artists and academics choosing to make the German capital their new home.

Yet the conflict in the Middle East is showing Germany in a new light, highlighting fissures in society and the arts world that until now had been easier to ignore.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They're not protecting 'Jewish people'. They're protecting Israel. There's a massive difference.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're protecting Israel by persecuting hate crimes committed inside of Germany?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're not persecuting hate crines. That's the entire point of the article. They're withdrawing funding and bringing legal charges against people who accurately describe the situation in Gaza as a genocide committed by a racist settler colonial state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By calling every war crime genocide you are removing the meaning from the word. What Israel is doing with mass civilian bombardment is terrible, but not genocide. Read about what happened to the Armenians, the Hutu, and the Jews for comparison. Another point to consider: the USA killed 20% of the Korean population through bombardment in the Korean war, and even that isn't considered a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

They do both and there's a lot of overlap between those. Israel was founded and untortunately continues to be needed as a save haven for a group that is persecuted in a lot of places in the world.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

there is not a massive difference. jewish and israeli identity are intertwined. Many jewish people sought refuge in israel because they had nowhere else to go. European jews after WW2 or arab jews in the late 40s/50s who were expelled out of muslim countries, for example. And again, defending israel's right to exist is not the same as defending the israeli government or the war crimes the idf commits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Not really. Israel is an ethnostate, they've declared it themselves. Genocide and oppression are guaranteed so long as it continues to be one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Jewish and Israeli identity are intertwined

No, they are not. But that is exactly what Israeli propaganda is trying to make you believe.

And because German politicians and media are cowards, they simply repeat Israeli propaganda when it comes to issues concerning the Jewish people or Israeli issues.

For this reason, the following Jews and Jewish organizations have probably never been invited to a German talk show or as experts on Jewish or Israeli issues:

Gideon Levy, Breaking the Silence, Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappé, Avi Shlaim, Max Blumenthal, Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), Simone Zimmerman, Jewish Currents, Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, Jews for Justice for Palestinians (JJP), IfNotNow, Naomi Klein, Judith Butler, Never Again Action, Independent Jewish Voices (IJV)

Watch them, read them.

I am convinced that this bias in German media is one of the main reasons for the increasing anti-Semitism in Germany.

When the only Jews you are shown are ardent supporters of an oppressive apartheid state that commits genocide and/or ethnic cleansing, and when that state presents itself as the core of Jewish identity, it is just too easy to conflate Jewish and Zionist and Israeli identities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

it is funny how you don't even react to anything I wrote and just say I am wrong and I believe in israeli propaganda.