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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Did it ever serve it's purpose?

[–] cokeslutgarbage 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm young and ignorant, so I don't know what I'm talking about and I'd be open to anyone posting any links for me to learn from. But I remember being in middle and high-school 20 years ago, and learning about the UN's "millennium goals" that they were trying to achieve by 2015. And they were... awesome. Like the real definition of awesome. They were awe-inspiring. And they made me hopeful as a young teen. And I remember when 2015 came and went and they hadn't even come close to meeting those goals. And I remember thinking, okay, well, they'll keep trying. But they didn't keep trying, and in fact I never heard anyone talk about the millennium goals ever again. And then 2016 came, and at least from my American-centric viewpoint, the world has been on a rapid decline since then. And I am honestly so hopeless, like rock bottom hopless, like, I don't know what the future is gonna be, but i can't imagine a good one if we stay on this path, and I don't know what to do, because I'm not a world leader.

I used to have so much respect and admiration for the UN but they're just as garbage as every other power in the world. This post is a fucking joke. My ex partner is from Saudi. I remember excitedly asking him about his opinion and his families opinion when women were first given permission to drive and he was DISGUSTED. Said "this should have happened ages ago, Saudi is using this as a PR move, why should we be happy that women are just now getting this right?"

Anyway. Sorry for the long response to your sarcastic comment. Have a good day. Xoxo.

[–] Agent641 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry that your faith in supranational organisations was so thoroughly squashed. It do be like that though. For a little while, Truman hoped that all nuclear weapons could be put under the control of the UN. Then that went belly up when the soviet union under Stalin learned how to build them. Theres always the IAEA though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Truman never wanted that. He flew around knowing that his nukes gave him an advantage over the USSR. From this paper, it is clear that Truman wanted to maintain an atomic monopoly and as for Joint Chiefs of Staff, they didn't want to share the nuclear secrets with any organization including the UN.

[–] dwalin 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No third world war yet. So i assume yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is an incredibly low bar to judge any organization. There are multiple conflicts going around the world that UN has done nothing to do. When it comes to permanent members of the Security council, the UN is powerless. Heck, it is powerless if one of the permanent members decides to flex it's muscles somewhere else geographically either.

Also, no world war is also largely due to presence of nukes with nations. The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction prevents nations from going into full blown wars when 2 nuclear powers are involved.

[–] dwalin 7 points 8 months ago

The UN has the power the nations want to give it. And for now, its this. Dont complain about the UN, complain about our governments

[–] FordBeeblebrox 3 points 8 months ago

The whole point was a united nation front to avoid another Nazi war, but they gave the blue hats no teeth. It served purpose for purpose sake but no real action

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

At one point I'm sure it was helpful to someone. Now it's just a weapon the oil producing countries plus China of the world wield against the rest.