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[–] stoly 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not the university, a student club. Students have first amendment rights here.

[–] Rakonat 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Clubs need to get permission from the University to invite people onto campus grounds and speak at campus facilities. Someone who actually works for and represents the facility had to sign off on that little fascist coming to speak.

[–] thesushicat 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Public universities are legally not allowed to ban controversial speakers, even if they are racist. It is a constitutional right, and banning free speech at a public institution amounts to government censorship. This article from the ACLU is relevant: https://www.aclu.org/documents/speech-campus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But it's not even about him being controversial -- just pointless. What educational value does a boring, loser kid have to offer?

[–] stoly 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Public discourse is an educational experience. Universities aren't there to just teach you mathematics and basket weaving, it's there to challenge your viewpoint and make you question your assumptions. That comes from being exposed to differing, even extreme, viewpoints.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So we're just calling anything "education" these days.

[–] stoly 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't like Kyle Rittenhouse. I don't like Kyle Rittenhouse. He's a horrible human being and a terrible role model.

This falls under the "I will fight to the death for your right to speak" philosophy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Again, not challenging his right to speak. Challenging the value of what he has to say.

[–] stoly 1 points 8 months ago

No, you cannot block that. Public universities are a first amendment forum which means that all viewpoints are allowed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not asking whether or not he had a right to speak there.

[–] stoly -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said that he has a right to speak there. The students have a right to invite him to speak there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not sure how that's relevant to the question I asked.

[–] stoly -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gotcha, you want to simmer. /out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] stoly -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It means that you don't want to converse, you just want to be angry. It was a mistake of me to attempt it with you.

[–] firewallfail 3 points 8 months ago

Go back and reread this conversation. Nothing you've said has been relevant. There was never a question about him being allowed to speak it was about whether there was value to him speaking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Not sure how making irrelevant statements constitutes conversation, or how wondering how they're relevant means I'm angry, but okay, bud. Run along.