Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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No bigotry or hate. Racism, transphobia, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, chauvinism, fat-shaming, body-shaming, stigmatization of people experiencing homeless or substance users, etc. are not tolerated. Don't use slurs. You can laugh at someone's fragile masculinity without associating it with their body. The correlation between car-culture and body weight is not an excuse for fat-shaming.
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Stay on-topic. Submissions should be on-topic to the externalities of car culture in urban development and communities globally. Posting about alternatives to cars and car culture is fine. Don't post literal car fucking.
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No traffic violence. Do not post depictions of traffic violence. NSFW or NSFL posts are not allowed. Gawking at crashes is not allowed. Be respectful to people who are a victim of traffic violence or otherwise traumatized by it. News articles about crashes and statistics about traffic violence are allowed. Glorifying traffic violence will get you banned.
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No reposts. Before sharing, check if your post isn't a repost. Reposts that add something new are fine. Reposts that are sharing content from somewhere else are fine too.
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No misinformation. Masks and vaccines save lives during a pandemic, climate change is real and anthropogenic - and denial of these and other established facts will get you banned. False or highly speculative titles will get your post deleted.
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No harassment. Posts that (may) cause harassment, dogpiling or brigading, intentionally or not, will be removed. Please do not post screenshots containing uncensored usernames. Actual harassment, dogpiling or brigading is a bannable offence.
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can you prove they are worse than useless? this is very counterintuitive to me. They effectively calm traffic better than zero speed bumps. Don't strawman me. I know there are better options. I'm not saying to add speed bumps
So we agree. Speed bumps aren't the best option. That's all I'm saying.
Well what is the best option to calm traffic and allow emergency service then?
Ever seen one of those speed monitors that tells drivers exactly how fast they are going? Those seem to work well.
I would disagree. As a teenager/young adult I treated them as a high score meter. Many people do the same as there is no physical aspects slowing you down and no consequences for not slowing down. Speed bumps slow people down to protect their suspension/ride quality. Lane narrowing slows people down as they need to be more careful to maintain their lane. Adding narrow bends to the road also slows people down to maintain their lane.
Traffic calming often needs a physical aspect to it to be effective. Relying on just the good will of drivers is rarely effective because emotion and attitude can change drastcially between drivers.
I live in a city and they seem to work there. Also, they can be equipped with cameras to take pictures of offenders.
A street I used to regularly use had its max speed rwduced to 30 km/h and speed bumps installed. This resulted in me, and apparently many others, not using that street anymore. I'd say they worked pretty well. Some might respond, "Well, now there's one less road in the area being used by cars, increasing congestion elsewhere." At which point I'd agree with them, and say that's probably better than having cars routinely driving past a school.
This sounds pretty similar to the situation the OP is describing.