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Modern web bloat means some pages load 21MB of data - entry-level phones can't run some simple web pages, and some sites are harder to render than PUBG (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] TCB13 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

My front page is 613KB with Wordpress. Moral of the story, you don't have to use a static website generator to have light things.

[–] Harbinger01173430 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can I achieve the same with vue.js or flutter? I need to learn this

[–] TCB13 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And how do you plan to manage your posts, database etc. and render stuff in those? You still need some backend solution like Wordpress, you can use vue as a frontend library for it… or vanilla JS, or jQuery..

[–] Harbinger01173430 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, for that I'll just dump some fast API or flask thing. Vue or flutter will just handle the front end

[–] TCB13 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So... you are aware that FastAPI and Flask will always be significantly slower than Wordpress... because Python, always running processes etc.?

You're building a simple website / blog just use Wordpress, it will output most of the pages into plan simple and fast HTML, then add a few pieces of vanilla JS or Vue (if you're into that) to make things "fluffier". Why bother with constant XHR requests when you're just serving simple text pages?

With Wordpress you'll also get all the management, roles, permissions, backend for "free" and you can always, like sane people, cache the output of the most visited pages. Wordpress also provides a RESTful API if required.

[–] Harbinger01173430 1 points 8 months ago

No I mean, I wanna make a full project but without bloating the front end website

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes. You can. I have a personal site that is using nuxt static site mode and it renders extremely fast and clean output.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Check out https://250kb.club all performance sites focused on speed and small size.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Or maybe the 512kb.club a more reasonable balance between 250 club and the 1mb club.

Also with a view: jankfree.org for a similar focus on performance.