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Simple authentication for homelab? (eviltoast.org)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/selfhosted

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What's everyones recommendations for a self-hosted authentication system?

My requirements are basically something lightweight that can handle logins for both regular users and google. I only have 4-5 total users.

So far, I've looked at and tested:

Authentik - Seems okay, but also really slow for some reason. I'm also not a fan of the username on one page, password on the next screen flow
Keycloak - Looks like it might be lighter in resources these days, but definitely complicated to use
LLDAP - I'd be happy to use it for the ldap backend, but it doesn't solve the whole problem
Authelia - No web ui, which is fine, but also doesn't support social logins as far as I can tell. I think it would be my choice if it did support oidc
Zitadel - Sounds promising, but I spent a couple hours troubleshooting it just to get it working. I might go back to it, but I've had the most trouble with it so far and can't even compare the actual config yet

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Authentik works very well and has the most flexibility if you have the resources to run it (not an rpi)

You can change the logon flow to make the username and password on the same page

Another user mention issues with password managers auto filling. There is a comparability button as well on the login flow that allows bitwarden and other to auto fill correctly.

Authentik has LDAP built in along with every SSO method that exists. Makes it super nice to integrate into as many services as possible.

I use it with oAuth, LDAP and reverse proxy authentication.

[–] bmcgonag 1 points 8 months ago

This. 100%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You can change the logon flow to make the username and password on the same page There is a comparability button as well on the login flow that allows bitwarden and other to auto fill correctly.

Thanks for the tips, I found the compatibility button and will try it out. I'm not sure I see how to change the username/password to be on the same page though. Do you have to create a whole new login flow?

[–] node815 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

https://www.youtube.com/@cooptonian His Authentik videos are top notch and they (Authentik) have also had him make some for them. One of those videos, I can't recall shows you how to do this, I think it may be the 2FA/MFA one. I use Authentik and can login with fingerprint login without using my UN/PW first. It's pretty slick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://www.piped.video/@cooptonian

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll take a look at some of his videos. I managed to get the un/pw on one page, but haven't done much with webauthn/passwordless stuff yet so that might be useful too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think I saw a tutorial on YouTube for how to do it but this page describes it as well. I edited the default login flow to include the password box

https://docs.goauthentik.io/docs/flow/stages/identification/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks! I managed to get user/pass on the same page and it works great with the compatibility mode