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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

With words starting with "un" you can figure out pronunciation by removing the "un" and see if the rest of the word is it's own word which means the opposite. "animous" is not a word so you would use the long "u" sound in "unanimous". Same for uniform or university. But not unironic or unintentional.

[–] LwL 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Through that logic I'd always figured unanimous stems from "without animosity" and the word animous just got lost to time, which would make un-animous the more sensible pronunciation. But it seems that while they do share a common etymology, it's not "un" as in negation, but rather "un" from "unus" meaning one, with both sharing "animus" meaning mind.

I also found out that animous used to exist as a synonym for animus at one point.

[–] Promethiel 3 points 9 months ago

The moral of the story; the only thing more 'absurd' (read: perfectly explainable, we're just silly creatures) in linguistics than pronunciations...is etymology.

[–] itsnotits 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Foiled again by swipe typing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes that may be the reason why that difference exists.

The usefulness of that tip is limited when encountering new words for the first time though.
If I don't know unanimous, chances are I don't know if animous exists either.

Edit: Also there is understand, which starts with un- although there is no 'derstand'.

[–] Oggyb 1 points 9 months ago

One could argue "understand" is more clearly two words stuck together than others mentioned.

Not that the two words combine meaningfully to create the new word!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most radiology teachers want to be unionized.

Explanation: That’s both union-ized, for part of a union, or un-ionized, for not ionized

That said, that’s a really good way to describe the difference. If you’re a native speaker, you’ve got really good insight (your native language has a lot of blind spots, where you know what is right, but not why), and if you’re not, then your English is really good!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I am a native English speaker. I just hate how inconsistent it is so I try to think up as many rules as I can to apply some kind of logic to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

That’s very uncommon for native speakers, so good job! You’re probably a good person for language learners to be around :)