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There are a lot of reasons not to give them your money. They're assholes to the maker community and they openly talk shit on a lot of their customer base. That's beside the point, though, really.

It's just not a spectacular option for hosting. In order to get a Rpi competitive with even the shittiest laptop from 7 years ago, you're going to end up spending more than you would spend on a decent laptop from 7 years ago.

If it is a computer that turns on, it will likely function orders of magnitude better than an Rpi and won't bind you to ARM architecture. My entire hosting setup was pulled out of a recycling pile for free. Install ubuntu/ubuntu server and enjoy yourself.

If you intend on spending any amount of money on this hobby, I cannot express enough how much I recommend against any of that money going toward a Raspberry Pi.

EDIT: A lot of you seem to be reading this as "Raspberry Pis are all nonfunctional" and getting mad about it. Don't do that.

Edit 2: Good to see that all the stupid parts of reddit made it here

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Can you expand on some of this?

I haven't really heard much regarding them being bad to their community/customer base, though I haven't bought in a few years.

In regards to cost/performance, what are you meaning you'd need to spend extra on to match that of an old laptop or recycled machine?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Not OP, but my Lenovo tiny computer on ebay is about $60 and will run circles around a raspberry pi

Power usage isn't too much higher, it's upgradeable, and it's x86-64 architecture so more things are supported.

My tiny has an i7 and was a bit more expensive, but it's a powerful little guy. I added more ram for a total of 32, and it does better than my "old" server (technically from same era).

Can't speak for the other stuff.

[–] sweetroll 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you run Windows on yours, or have you installed a different OS to run things?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I run proxmox on bare metal. I have a couple VMs for docker, and video game servers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not op but I have 3 tiny PCs and I run Linux on them. But then I don't run windows at all because it honestly sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows is pretty great though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for what...? Stealing your data, sending telemetry about how your kids play minecraft, serving up Ad's in your start menu, forcing updates that reset your configured preference, overriding group policies, abusive licensing, trying to shove bing and edge down your throat?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No just overall experience. Everything runs better on Windows really. Anonymous usage shit doesn't matter to me really. As for anything I need to do Windows just does it better, I don't run into weird driver issues or update problems that cause things to crash miserably or lock me out of my boot sector with obscure errors I have to spend forever troubleshooting through a rabbit hole of forum posts and obscure nonsense. All the software I would ever need to use works fine including all the obscure stuff I have to use for work that I otherwise spend forever troubleshooting in arch, Ubuntu, mint, etc. Using wine, proton, or etc. It just works. I could plug any USB device in on Windows and get a little pop-up that says "you dude your shits ready to roll" and it's good. I used Linux for 15 years or so on and off and I was vehemently pro Linux like you are but dude it really does suck. Only way it works is if someone develops a distro with exacting, specific hardware in mind and tests it for a good couple years then releases it for others to use with the exact same hardware. Cases like Chromebooks, steam decks, Enterprise mainframes and servers. Yeah, that's fine, someone is putting in the time and effort to build specifically for this things. As for everything else, if you want shit to work and get your day to day work done as a grown up, not a great situation unless you somehow hit some sweetspot of hardware config that will supported. Otherwise most of your computing time is gonna be spent getting your computer actually functional

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The primary reason I have to fiddle with things in linux is because I want to do things that really are not possible in windows. I still have to use Windows for work because I am tied to specific software and in these cases I have no other choice.

But I find I spend equal time fixing and supporting my windows machine as I do with linux. There are lots of valid complaints about linux and I have my own, the biggest is on Manjaro which I run for my daily it frequently has expired keys and updates just stop running correctly and the error messages are just bad.

I personally hit the tipping point with windows on windows 10. Initially I loved it, and it seemed like a good upgrade from windows 7 which I had previously been using. But then Microsoft started forcing anti user features. I decided that rather than have to spend time after EVERY FORCED update hunting down the settings and registry hacks that had been changed again to what I expressly wanted.

I personally see the value of Windows, but I would just disagree with it having a better experience. The experience is equally frustrating and the biggest thing holding people back is that they are used to the frustrations and dont think of them as being as significant as they are.

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