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That's Linus of LTT in the top
"WhY iS pAcKaGe MaNaGeMeNt So HaRd" my brother in Christ you got one broken Deb that was packaged and provided for free by someone other than the vendor, the vendor provides their own installer you could have used that wouldn't have had the issue. You could have also used a flatpak. You were literally offered three ways to install the software on any operating system you could choose, and you gave up after the marginally simplest one failed and you were too lazy to troubleshoot it.
The donkey doesn't even know the first thing about package management or any part of the build process, and has no right whatsoever to talk about it as if the maintainers of the stack are to blame.
/rant fuck that self-absorbed short stack sponge
Your rant is justified.
But if you compare that to a user who is used to only one way of installing a system and only one way of installing new Software. Then it can be overwhelming at first glance when you are in the middle of a problem with what seems to be the only way to install packages and not in the overview of multiple package managers.
I'm 110% with you here. Debian have make it much more difficult to break your system, so it should be stack sponge proof going forward. I still wouldn't put it past Linus to fuck it up some other way (you know, maybe he'll curl HTML into bash instead of a script), and he'll still stand his ground and blame the world. And then later give one of his non-apology apologies.
I used to be a huge fan.
Same, I was a fan for a while despite them not being great about accuracy, it was entertaining tech-themed content that I knew not to trust for anything serious. Them recommending a custom windows rom that disabled any anti-virus and blocked security updates was when I completely wrote them off. And their excuse was "we showed some of the issues on screen for like 1/2 a second, that's enough" and refused to acknowledge anyone's concerns were valid.
Then later it got way worse when it turned out they had issues with serial harassment and stole and auctioned off prototype hardware.
Here's probably the worst part of that situation: He got that error, because the Pop!_Shop caught the unreasonable prerequisites and said "Nope, not doing that" and threw that "failed to install Steam" message. Someone who deserves to be the CEO of a tech broadcaster would have the troubleshooting skills to, I dunno, google "popos failed to install steam" and follow instructions on how to fix it. No, what happened was he threw a temper tantrum about how Linux GUIs never work and you have to use the terminal.
The Pop!_Shop's flawed design (in that it doesn't update the apt cache on launch for some reason), that bugged .deb, and a whiny little fuckboy lined up just right to take the system down.