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[–] TCB13 38 points 8 months ago (14 children)

postmarketOS just gained my respect. To be fair there's no point in running a Linux system without systemd as you'll end up installing 32434 different RAM wasting services to handle things like cron, dns, ntp, mounts, sessions, log management etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (9 children)

The only time it does make sense is on minimal systems like routers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

because we all know that routers have so much RAM that installing DNS, NTP, mounts, session, log management isn't a problem? something doesn't add up...

[–] TCB13 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I believe @[email protected] 's point was that in OpenWRT and others it makes more sense to have smaller daemons instead of systemd because they aren't using the standard ones you'll usually find under Debian and other Linux distros. They take daemons and slim them down to the point they become smaller than systemd at the cost of features that aren't required on routers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Exactly, although it applies to more systems other than OpenWRT

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Routers lack storage and RAM both of which are used up by using a heavier init. Most of the time you will see a very basic system start services by putting them in init.d

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Man my router has 512 Gigs and 16 gigs or RAM. R

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mine has 128mb of ram. What on earth are you running on your router than needs that much hardware. I just bought a device from Walmart

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably running OPNSense in a VM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Rams cheap. Maybe he’s getting full ipv6 routing tables.

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