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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The electoral reform story is Trudeau wanted Ranked ballot in 2015-2016 when he won his first election and everyone wanted something else. So they ended up doing nothing.

Mostly true, except that the CPC didn't want anything. At all.

Neither the LPC nor the CPC really want a change, but the LPC would accept ranked ballots because they're everyone's second choice. The CPC is no one's second choice, and under anything other than FPTP they'd never be in office again.

The LPC would probably be permanently enshrined in government under ranked ballots, but PR (which everyone wanted) would see them never forming a majority ever again. 50% vote shares are incredibly rare in Canada; you have to go back half a century and even then they weren't common. But, majority governments with ~35% of the vote happen often, and the LPC and CPC would prefer to switch chairs every four to eight years than find themselves permanently exiled from power and having to negotiate with parties like the NDP, and appease an electorate that, if you look at it, is much more economically left-wing than the CPC or LPC are.

[–] SamuelRJankis 2 points 7 months ago

Mostly true, except that the CPC didn’t want anything. At all.

For brevity I considered that wanting something else.

Neither the LPC nor the CPC really want a change, but the LPC would accept ranked ballots because they’re everyone’s second choice. The CPC is no one’s second choice, and under anything other than FPTP they’d never be in office again.

I also believe that the Liberals don't really want Ranked ballots either, if I were the NDP I'd definitely give them the opportunity to prove they were never sincere about any type of voting reform.

In regards to everyone wanting PR I'd point to the 2018 BC referendum and how people believe that was setup for failure.