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YouTube Music team laid off by Google while workers testified to Austin City Council about working conditions::Some workers learned of the YouTube Music layoffs while testifying to the Austin city council about Google's refusal to negotiate with the union.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Cognizant employees don’t sign a contract. They are W2 employees, who are “contracted out” to other companies. The contract is between Cognizant and the third party. The employee literally never sees it.

[–] ShunkW 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not true. When they sign to work with a client, they're given an initial end date. Worked with many of them throughout the years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I assure you, they are not. Unless it’s a one off project and not an ongoing project like YouTube music would be.

[–] ShunkW 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And I assure you they are. We had dozens of contractors that were doing ongoing work, not project based. They were all given a contract with terms to sign that outlined the timeline. Sometimes they were extended, other times not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve worked for Cognizant. What you are describing is not the norm. Cognizant signs the contracts, the employees do not.

[–] dumpsterlid 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Further, whenever employees ask about shitty details of their work environment Cognizant says “Oh, Google wants us to do that” but then whenever Google gets any pressure they just say “Oh, that is Cognizant’s choice to do with their contractors”.

The whole system is specifically designed to crush tech workers under a boot and it is honestly kind of pathetic the tactic Google and Cognizant use is the same one parents use when they say “I don’t know, go ask your mother” and then mom tells you “I don’t know, go ask your father”.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They have a contract with their employer, though. The problem here is not contracting, it's this stupid at-will employment that allows this to happen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They are W2 employees. They have a contract insofar as any other W2 employer.

Unless you mean the employer and the third party, in this case Google, which I absolutely agree with.

And yeah, the at-will bs gets quite tiresome. People assume they are “safe” because they aren’t contracted, but when you’re contracted you can tie in early term fees and such, and you can still be fired at the drop of a hat.