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Energy efficiency of active travel (walking, cycling, ebike) compared to an electric car (slrpnk.net)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Now do one where you A) normalize this to the same trip distance (not speed, so that these choices for a single trip become meaningfull) and B) convert the kWh into CO2 emissions, including the emissions in growing and transporting the various power and food production methods used (coal to solar, locally produced veggies-air shipped beef)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's already normalized to distance, the graph is showing kWh/km. The speed is just there for additional context.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, if you account for the amount of CO2 that goes into producing food the ebike will be much more efficient in terms of co2/km than a regular bicycle. Even if you cheat by making the regular bicycle drive slower than the ebike, like they did for this chart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Trip distance is dependent on methods of transportation at the aggregate level. That's only relevant for policy decisions or collective actions, not individuals of course, but if we are going to deal with climate change, collective action is necessary.

Given the graph is normalized by km traveled, its overly generous to cars.