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They should have a literal rating for Level 1, 2 or 3 charging when you buy it. MOST of these only handle level 2 charging at 80A. I highly doubt there's many if any that can do Level 3 and not cause magic smoke to appear, but I could be wrong as I haven't looked at them since I bought a SyncWire adapter for Level2 charging at Tesla stations.
It doesn't really work that way.
The only difference between level 1 and 2 is voltage. 200+ is level 2, and at the amounts we're talking about, it doesn't matter. The wiring/adapter cares about amperage far more than voltage. As another example, a 240V circuit at home uses the same wiring as 120V, assuming the amperage is the same; the only difference is how it's connected in the panel.
However, there should be (and is!) rating for amperage. I've seen plenty of 40A adapters out there, which would be a problem if you use them on a 48+ amp power source with a car that can use it. The adapter doesn't de-rate anything.
As for level 3, that's kinda like your mom calling a Sega Genesis "Nintendo" - everyone knows that you mean but it's not technically correct. Really it's called DC fast charge, because rather than converting a relatively small amount of AC into DC in your car, a much bigger transformer is part of the charger setup and that power goes pretty much straight to the battery. In a CCS plug, it's in those two extra pins below the J1772. As mentioned elsewhere, it uses a much different protocol to communicate with the car so it wouldn't initiate power if it's not made for it.
What I'm still unsure about is if the upcoming adapters will support a NACS plug on an AC or DC circuit. If I can use the same adapter at a hotel or on a road trip, that would be neat! But it would still be a bit different than "rating" levels 1, 2, or 3.
The NACS to CCS1 adapters I've seen are DC only. An AC/DC adapter would somehow need to detect what kind of charger is connected and switch to the correct pins. Relays capable of switching 500+ amps are $$$.
You say "it wouldn't initiate power", but how does the DC charger know if you're using an AC adapter?