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[–] derpo 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I’m deleting this comment, what I thought was just an observation seemed to upset instead.

[–] bentruck 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah way more Iraqi civilians died.

[–] derpo 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a great point. War is so stupid. I bet the collateral numbers from this war will also be depressing

[–] bentruck -1 points 1 year ago

Yep, and as long as war is profitable for the US it will always be something the US is looking to engage in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Think about WWII numbers. About 1,100,000 Soviets died in the Battle of Stalingrad alone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean where the US and it's allies, with air superiority, carpet bombed the fuck out of civilian centres? Who'd have thought those school children and families cooking their supper wouldn't put up much of a fight?

How many people did the US lose in Vietnam or Korea? How many soldiers has it lost in Ukraine, even?

[–] derpo 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I didn’t think my comment would incense so many people. I just think it’s interesting how Americans think of war when they really have no concept of all-out war like is happening in Ukraine. That’s all I was trying to convey

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, in that case, I apologise and we're in agreement. I construed it as saying the opposite, that the US wins wars without many casualties (relatively speaking) because it's superior rather than because it learned in Vietnam that it can't win conventional wars and so now only targets places that can't really fight back.

I'm afraid that you may have walked into an in ongoing discussion as to whether the US military and NATO are forces for good or are particularly good at what they claim to do. People who dislike NATO and US imperialism can get a bit critical. You can't win though, because now the USians who 'have no [real] concept of all-out war' will be around to get you from the other side. 😬

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It may have been different if the west had sent them billions in equipment as aid against the invasion.