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I just want to know what they were going to prevent with guns, given he was immobilized and not even screaming anymore in addition to being engulfed in flames. You seem to have all the answers, so I'm sure there must be something dangerous he could have done at that point which could have been stopped by a gun - please just tell me what it was.
They don't know what they're walking into. We know after the fact what they had.
But they know possibilities right?
If I say "guy in a store with a gun" - he could be a robber, he could be a murderer, he could have hostages, etc.
This guy was down, engulfed in flames, and not screaming when they drew. So what possibilities come up when I say "guy on the ground, on fire, past the ability to communicate or travel under his own power" that is a problem a gun could solve?
In any case this:
Is just a more palatable (to you) way to say this, which is what I wrote in the first comment of mine you replied to:
See, we agree!
They are security staff. They approach anything and secure it. Everything else is subjective
Why even bother to reply if that's the only thing you are capable of saying? We both know there isn't a reasonable answer to the question I keep asking.
Fuckers threatening a service-member with deadly force for compliance while he burns to death, and lots of folks jumping up to defend it. At the very least I refuse to accept these empty platitudes.
Edit - clarification of wording
I mean, same to you?
You don't like the behavior of security staff who have one very cold, very unfriendly goal: keep the embassy safe. I doubt they have specific training on self immolation so obviously they used standard procedure.
They don't give a fuck about public perception, the feelings of the involved individuals, etc.
Everyone keeps asking " why weren't they this or that or the other thing". There's one root answer weather folks like it or not.
I guess I kept hoping for an actual answer to the question I kept asking, as one might expect during an honest discussion. Don't worry, I've given up now.
The actual answer is truly that these professional security types don't care. They go guns ready for anything that is remotely threatening to the embassy. A dude on fire on the perimeter apparently counts, no matter what we think of that.