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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Pipewire: works.

Pulseaudio: worksn't.

Really, it's as simple as that. Pulseaudio tried to be the systemd of sound and ~~failed~~ succeeded pretty horribly. Even its packaging was horrible, back when it was first put into Fedora and I tried uninstalling, it threatened taking down Libreoffice and Gedit with it.

[–] Theharpyeagle 10 points 7 months ago

back when it was first put into Fedora and I tried uninstalling, it threatened taking down Libreoffice and Gedit with it.

I did this back when I was a newbie and somehow destroyed either the display server or some other part of the GUI. Sound issues have made me nervous ever since.

[–] sugartits 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well that's just poor packaging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Shoddy workmanship due to how eager those devs are to push their beta testing software on Production, yeah. And honestly looking back, coming from Fedora, doesn't surprise me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IIRC wasn't Pulseaudio and systemd made by the same person?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No idea if that's the case but they certainly seem to have been made with the same mentality. FOSS has for a while suffered of what I call the "Icaza pest", trying to bring the Microsoft way of design and programming into Linux. The results and troubles this causes abound, considering eg.: the fart that has been Gnome themes since 3.x, or the Gnome posturing back in the day that "users have no right to change their settings" when modernization of Gnome-terminal, and how it'd interact with stuff like screen and dtach, were discused.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not all FOSS it's just those projects. You don't have to use Gnome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But their choices do impact other projects. I may not use Gnome, but the choices made on theming (or lack of) , for example, now also effect XFCE.