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[–] go_go_gadget 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And while that’s a choice between the lesser of two evils, it’s not a difficult one.

There's other choices. Moderates and Biden could choose to compromise with leftists and progressives any time. But all signs point to them preferring to lose to fascists a second time.

[–] tills13 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, there are two choices. It sucks and nobody likes it but if you don't vote for a Dem you are giving a vote to a Rep. Cut the crap.

[–] go_go_gadget -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

nobody likes it

Moderates like it just fine. They're happy continuing to elect awful pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting piece of shit candidates and then expecting leftists and progressives to support them in the general. If moderates didn't like it they would have voted for one of the many alternatives in the 2020 primaries.

You need to cut the crap. Stop lecturing leftists and progressives and giving moderates a free pass. Moderates are the majority voting bloc for Democrats and thus they take the lions share of the responsibility. Spend your effort lecturing them.

[–] tills13 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm further left than you but anyone with a brain knows that it's a two party system and any vote for any other party is just pissing in the ocean. Find change inside the party with progressives but at the end of the day you (unfortunately) either vote blue or red or you might as well not vote at all.

[–] go_go_gadget 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can call yourself whatever you want but if at the end of the day you vote like a moderate your beliefs make no difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But if you vote for a fringe party your beliefs matter more?

[–] go_go_gadget 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No. I'm fine with voting 3rd party or writing in knowing they'll likely not be elected. Are moderates fine with Biden losing to Trump? If not then they need to find some policy to compromise on in order to encourage progressives and leftists to vote for Biden again. We compromised in 2020 and voted for Joe Biden in the general. We've gotten fuck all for it. It's time for a compromise in the other direction. There's no point for us to stand around a table when moderates refuse to give us a seat.

[–] tills13 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] go_go_gadget 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good luck endlessly lecturing leftists and progressives while giving moderates a free pass being selfish pieces of shit.

[–] tills13 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's talk when someone other than a dictator wannabe has secured the presidency.

[–] go_go_gadget 0 points 9 months ago

You mean like for the past four years? You all just ignored us. If you want our votes then talk to us now.