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[meme] There is no one-size-fits-all solution to transportation (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by Fried_out_Kombi to c/fuckcars

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've heard it said that Houston's annual transportation cost for total car-dependency is close to 20% of their budget.

NYC, which has the entire MTA plus a huge number of highways and still shocking amount of car dependency, is 10%.

Amsterdam with all of its trams and bike paths is closest to 4%.

Yet any resident of NYC or Houston will tell you it is fucking TERRIBLE driving in either of those cities. Meanwhile, Amsterdam is ranked one of the best cities for people who love to drive because its roads are maintained, safe, and aren't congested.

It's actually not possible to be 100% transit or 100% bike, outside of some weird Swiss vacation communities or Canadian island neighborhoods. But the more you invest in transit and bikeped, the more you address the actual cause of congestion and the more drivable your city gets. Even if you truly love and prefer driving, multimodal cities are still better. Downs-Thompson is inviolable.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Downs-Thompson is inviolable.

The simple truth that a lot of people don't understand. Cars simply require too much space that you can never possibly meet all the latent demand for car trips within a city, as doing so would mean bulldozing the entire city in the process. The only way to meet latent demand for transit is via an array of vastly more space-efficient means, e.g., public transit, walking, and biking.

[–] grue 11 points 9 months ago

Cars simply require too much space that you can never possibly meet all the latent demand for car trips within a city, as doing so would mean bulldozing the entire city in the process.

1970s Houston: "hold my beer"

[–] grue 9 points 9 months ago

It’s actually not possible to be 100% transit or 100% bike, outside of some weird Swiss vacation communities or Canadian island neighborhoods.

You don't even need the caveat. Even in weird Swiss vacation communities and Canadian island neighborhoods, the mode share of pedestrians is >0%.