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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why bother with BlueSky over Mastodon?

Bluesky's model of federation fixes the whole "if my instance goes down I lose everything".

Your Identity and your data is portable, which means that each server on Bluesky is "merely" a service provider.

[–] Fedizen 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying its like the identity server model like matrix uses? Isnt that kind of model horribly complicated?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how the matrix model works to be honest, but I think it's a totally different use case.

[–] Fedizen 2 points 4 months ago

If you're moving around between servers it means that each server has to validate the users. The matrix solution was to add identity servers that tell the server you're logging into who you are. I imagine something similar would be necessary to hop servers on nostr and bluesky. Its possible the connected servers share user identities but that has its own array of problems.

[–] CaptainSpaceman 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can you not just backup the instance on Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean as a non-admin. Users on Mastodon are at the mercy of the instance owner. On Bluesky (and nostr) they are not.

[–] CaptainSpaceman -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Then users need to spin up their own instance, right? Then all their posts stay backed up if they choose?

Seems like a mediocre problem to get bent out of shape enough to move to a centralized platform.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

No. A better analogy would be like phone number portability. You can "own" your number, and if you want to change your company you can take the number with you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Completely impractical for most people but this advice gets unironically thrown around all the time. And evangelists still wonder why regular people think the fediverse and particularly Mastodon are convoluted af.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are you calling centralized here?

[–] hansl 3 points 4 months ago

I think people are confusing centralized with federated. Federation has benefits but Mastodon is not decentralized. There is duplication of data but it’s not the same.