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Before watching the video:
Somebody else "not caring" about being tracked is only a valid response as long as their lack of care doesn't affect me. With social networks like Facebook, which create social graphs based on self-reported connections, I am affected.
Maybe other people have the ~~privilege~~ luxury of not caring, but hardly everybody does. Even a totalitarian dictatorship can be comfortable to the person at the top.
No, though. Somebody doesn't make a video to tell you that they don't care. They make a video to convince you not to care too.
After watching the video and trying not to cover what other commenters have said:
I nailed it. The video is clickbait, literally a case encouraging you to opt in to tracking. Saying Facebook knows your political opinions but it'll keep them safe, without mentioning Cambridge Analytica.
I found it funny that "Verizon buys ads on Google" was an example of Verizon not getting your data, but Logically fails to mention Verizon collects all your data too if you use their services (often all your web browsing). Verizon isn't an ad company, so what gives? He later flashes up an example of Verizon giving data to the government. No connections were made here.
Another example: This video asserts corporations only gather your data for ads, and only use the data internally. Reddit is selling user data to AI companies. That's not advertising data. And that's not being kept safe.
Saying advertising is targeting people in a way never seen before, then saying the opposite, "this has always been going on." No, Logically, when you watch traditional TV, it does not watch you back like ads do.
The final argument for Surveillance is a false dichotomy b
It assumes Big Tech companies are both inevitable, and also interchangeable with the idea of technology in general. "We can't reject computers, therefore Google Maps needs to work better" -- no. It's not the binary that's presented.
This is a very important point most people don't give a single thought to.
Same principle applies to Meta having my contact data because other people use their products and have me saved on their phone. That shouldn't be happening in the first place.
(The GDPR deems it illegal when it happens in a professional context, so there's that, at least)
you have to protect yourself when you give data to people. disposable numbers, emails, po boxes, etc. frens and family, they do not give a damn, and will give every single big tech Corp all of your information.
I'm gonna be honest, I can't stand this argument.
Yes, the people I send a message to are the last and weakest link in a long chain of making the transfer of that message happen.
But that doesn't mean all the other links are irrelevant.
i never meant or said that. i meant that you should protect against all links in the chain. so, i agree with you
I misunderstood, then. Sorry for that, my reply was a bit angry
no worries, this topic is very frustrating..