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Are they planning a compact pickup? The Tacoma really is more a midsize nowadays.
I don't think they are. But also, if you want a "compact truck" why not get a Minivan? You get the convenience of being able to choose between hauling 7 people, or a crap load of stuff all in a nice comfortable cab, and you get a free COVERED bed (fold all seats down, you can fit a ton of sheets of plywood easy)
The base price for a minivan (Toyota Sienna) is like $36k, almost $10k more expensive than the latest Maverick pricing. Siennas also aren’t really any easier to find either, they’re very in demand by young families right now.
Agreed with a lot of your prospective on functionality and I’m hopeful minivans are making a comeback as they’re much more practical than the half ton or full size pickups people are buying.
That is fair, however where in the heck are you going to find a base Maverick?
You’re not unless you order it. Although I suspect you might see better availability starting this model year.
I think the point here is that the Maverick is quite a bit cheaper than a minivan. I think a more fair comparison, speaking of price only, is a half ton like a Tacoma or Ranger.
But I wholeheartedly agree with your point that many people would be better off with a minivan than a truck. A minivan provides the functions needed for most people much better than trucks do, and come with better MPG and a comfier cabin.
I don't know of any minivans that can get 40MPG. A bed is useful for loose material, things like gravel, dirt, or mulch. Not to mention, I am not sure if minivans can fit 4x8 sheets.
The Toyota Sienna gets 36MPG and comes in an AWD option. And all of them are Hybrids. I do see where your coming from on the bed being good for loose materials.
Minivans definitely could fit 4x8 sheetgoods with the seats out but the complicating factor is the loss of removable seats. The Sedona (and I assume Carnival) will only let you collapse the 2nd row against the front seats (don't know if that's enough to get the 8' in) and the new Sienna's 2nd row doesn't fold or come out at all without disassembly.
Toyota Stout is the rumor. Plus RAM has a compact pickup just launched in brazil that is rumored to be coming to the US.