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[–] SerotoninSwells 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Apparently we're running out of sand. That's going to make the transition to glass harder. I'm not saying I don't agree because I would definitely prefer glass than plastic.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

For people that don’t want to read/don’t already know

It’s the types of sand, desert sand is useless

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone needs to make a new glass processing method so we can use desert sand

[–] force 9 points 10 months ago

Sorry but this comment is completely ignorant of the chemistry & manufacturing... you can make some shitty unusable glass with it, but unless you waste an unsustainable amount of resources to try to make the problems less apparent, a majority of desert sand is too low-silica to work. It's a problem with the material, no new glass processing method will change that.

And if you do decide to use desert sand, it's practically a logistics nightmare, especially considering you'll likely have to be centered in one of the few deserts made of sand (most of which are in North/South-East Africa and the Middle East, but also Central Asia, Australia, some parts of the Americas). But even if you did it's not sustainable or practical, and it most probably won't be in the future, there's a reason glass manufacturing plants smack dab in the middle of sandy deserts have to import their sand.

[–] Omgpwnies 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if we can "recycle" desert sand to have more of the properties that we're looking for.. It seems the biggest problem is it's weathered in such a way that it doesn't bond properly as an agregate like sand harvested from the water does

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

What if we just take all the sand in deserts and move it into the ocean?

Insert Patrick meme here

[–] Dadifer 1 points 10 months ago

Apparently ocean sand is fine.