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Are people more enlightened today than they were 100 years ago? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 9 months ago by Daft_ish to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. We’ve had many political revolutions overthrowing leaders, religion has been on a heavy decline, and most people accept that science or basic logic is the most important element in an argument, not authority.

We just see so many people NOT doing that, and we hate it. We live in a world where the person doing the stupidest thing that day makes the front page, and we’re enlightened enough to critique it.

Stupid people will always exist. The idea that we hear about them more now and we hate them for it actually proves we’ve become more enlightened.

[–] z00s -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: Trump was president.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Of America, not of the world. Believe it or not, there are so many other people in the world outside of America.

Also, look at the presidents of the past. America has had many pro-slavery Presidents. Trump was awful, but he wasn’t even the worst President. The fact that so many people felt he was awful also shows that America has progressed.

But back to my first point, you’re looking at a country of 350m out of 8 billion people in the world. The world has moved on from so many of the things that the US continues to struggle with. As a people, we’ve advanced much further than we’ve been in the past.

Edit: wrote a “k” not an “m” for America’s population.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The fact that you don't think Trump was the worst president makes me doubt your knowledge of US history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoints:

china, Russia and the whole clusterfuck that is Middle East are a thing;
The far right is on the rise throughout all of Europe.;
Polarisation of public discourse is now the norm;

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

100 years ago, the only one of those that was better was possibly the Middle East, depending on where. The Chinese and Russian populations are significantly less oppressed and more educated than they were 100 years ago, which doesn’t minimize what they’re currently going through, but 1924 was not a good year for Russia or China

[–] z00s 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Other people were worse" has never been a good argument, much leas for presidents.

350k?

The far right is on the rise all across the world, not just the US.

He was voted in by the people, ergo, the majority is not enlightened.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not the majority.

[–] z00s -2 points 9 months ago

Pretty salty there, Captain America lol

[–] lordnikon 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

who lost the poplar vote

[–] z00s 0 points 9 months ago

What about the oak vote?