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What a poor use of land and space for housing. Why not increase density with at a minimum a duplex or triplex? This is ridiculous.
A lot of people don’t want to share walls.
“Hey uh, I have 3 loud kids and a wife who is loud during sex. Wanna be my neighbor?”
Then maybe develop the concept of a brick wall and social skills.
These types of houses won't protect you from noise. You're never more than 5m away from your neighbors and only separated by cardboard. You will hear them.
I'm currently living in an apartment building from 1910 or so, made from proper bricks. Hardly ever even notice that I have neighbors.
Can confirm. I currently live in the suburbs, with a fairly wide lot (100ft). In the warm months, there is almost never a moment of daylight where I can't hear lawn equipment (lawnmowers, leaf blowers, etc). And my house is well-built and sealed properly. For some reason, everyone thinks they need a giant riding mower or an enormous gas-powered leaf blower. There are lawn service contractors parked on the road almost all the time. The winter months aren't as bad, but snow blowers are out at the slightest hint of snow.
I had a much quieter experience when I lived in an apartment building. It's anecdotal, but it makes sense once you've lived in both.
Yeah, it's almost impossible to build with bricks in California. (Earthquakes)
It's a real shame we don't have any other methods of acoustical insulation...
Then try concrete instead. For European mid-rise firewalls, that‘s pretty much standard.
Yeah man not just that, but if the neighbor has a bug problem, great now I have a bug problem.
You can still have an unexpected bug problem in a detached house. Shit happens.
A lot of people have very narrow lived experiences, but are happy to talk about imagined experiences.
What about neighbors who mow their own way 8am on a Sunday with their kids running around and screaming outside or their teenager blasting loud music out their bedroom window or every neighbor using some kind of noisy power tool because there's always someone doing renovations of some kind?
It's not because you live in a separate house that you will automatically have peace and quiet.
My current place is super quiet. I essentially never hear anyone and it's quite relaxing.
I'm on the sixth floor in a building with 100 units, it's just built well.
Exactly. If I'm working nights and need to use power tools in my home? No problem. In an apartment? Good luck
Unless you're living way out on a farm a mile away from your neighbors, even if you live in a detached home in a suburb, you still have to respect noise bylaws. Especially with power tools.
That is the dream for many. Lots of farm land is being turned into housing in this way.
what? do you think people in apartments never use power tools?
just keep it between 10 in the morning and 10 in the evening and you're fine.
I specifically mentioned working nights.... I guess I could've been more clear that the power tools are for work.
I have a small shop set up in my basement that allows after-hours work without disturbing the neighbours (two walls with 10ft+ between them will beat any apartment wall assembly for sound transmission), within reason for the noise I'm making of course.
Reading this thread has taught me that soundproofing a shared wall isn‘t possible in America.
You just underestimate how noisy women having orgasms can be. 🤣
If you can be heard through a decoupled double layered brick wall, you can also be heard through two wood frame walls standing 12 feet apart, especially when there are windows in them.
Not to mention half of the lot and interior square footage is dedicated to a car.
Right??? How about increased density with amenities at a maximum 15 minute walk distance and public transportation?
Where the fuck are the trees in that picture? Where's the shade? How far are things if everybody needs a car? How bad must traffic be in the morning and evening at rush hour? It's just a concentrated suburb with all of its problems intensified.
I live in a duplex. The downstairs neighbor is my roommates's mom and she's the most fucked up miserable person I've met in my life. Don't be like me.
Just because you happen to have a bad experience doesn't mean it's the same everywhere.
My last residence was a triplex. While the walls were thin, the tenants and the landlord living on the bottom floor were great. I made some good friends there. We looked out for each other. Had a real sense of community.
Texas in general is a poor use of land.