in summer 2023, when I moved here from reddit, the lemmy instance beehaw.org was extremely divisive. they wanted to create a website according to certain rules rather than a free for all. some people were saying it would be the end of the threadiverse before it even began.

since that time, there have been various other intrinsic and extrinsic threats. I do not see much panicking about beehaw. did the threadiverse survive beehaw? or is this only a shell of what we might have had otherwise?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Rilers gonna get riled. I've only seen Beehaw mentioned recently as a nice, drama-free space.

Some people in this thread say Beehaw defederated almost or entirely from the rest of the threading/fediverse; just a glimpse of their instance federation and block lists show that isn't the case. If you or your instance has been blocked by one that pretty much only requires users to be nice — I think that warrants some introspection on your part rather than dismissing them.

I'm completely for social sites that set an ettiquette standard and stick to it. And I'm getting too old for bored teenagers' edgelord hot takes, so in principle I should probably be in the target group for Beehaw.

That said, looking through the recent local posts on the instance... it doesn't look terribly interesting either. Not that I look for aggravation or confrontation in a forum, but I guess the people who sign up for a "nice" one, in this case at least, are fairly normie, and don't have much interesting to say?

[+] [email protected] -15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meh. Their admins are human like any other. One of their main subs banned me for saying that as an Asian, I didn't have any opinion or strong feelings on the holocaust.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You don't have strong feelings or any opinion about millions of innocent people dying?

You don't think it's bad?

That's got nothing to do with your race. That's just really shit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't have any strong feelings or opinions about the holocaust in particular, as opposed to any of the other multiple genocides and atrocities humanity has committed over the ages, or even just the assorted hundreds of millions of deaths from war, famine, disease, etc. They all suck, but I see no reason to get more emotional about one specific event than any of the others.

I get that it's especially sensitive for many people because they feel connected to the event via personal, family or national ties. None of those apply to me. How strongly do YOU feel about the Crusades, which were very much an attempted genocide? Chances are, you don't, because it's just not culturally relevant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The crusades were atrocities in my opinion. Straight up racism made manifest under the guise of religion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. So was the holocaust. But at least for me, it's an intellectual outrage, nothing that works up my emotions. Apparently to some people, that's unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Right well that would be an opinion. Do you really not see how your comment may have come off as nasty?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Possibly. Is that on the level of getting permabanned, though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

100% it makes you sound like a complete POS to be honest.

If you can read about the Holocaust and not feel any emotion that does seem pretty fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I said no STRONG emotion, go back to my post 2 levels up. Like, I'm not about to sit there and start crying, I'm just not an emotional guy. Is that now a crime?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

actually what you said was

any opinion

it's not a crime. but you know lemmy isn't a court of law right? you sound like an asshole.

whether it deserves a ban I guess that depends on the context.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

You also said no opinion. It being bad is an opinion. So saying you have no opinion sounds harsh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If someone is of Asian decent from any country Japan invaded, their ancestors experienced equally bad atrocities that are largely ignored by the global community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah but I wouldn't say I have no opinion about them. It's super fucked up and horrifying.