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samsung TVs losing access to Google assistant (mobilesyrup.com)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/google
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Gotta love how companies can remove features after you've bought them. Should be grounds for being eligible return imo

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[–] EisFrei 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most TVs will stay dumb if you don't connect them to the internet and only use the HDMI port.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

That’s not what he asked. You still pay extra money for smart features that you do not use this way.

[–] Earthwormjim91 12 points 11 months ago

No, you pay extra not to have those. Smart TVs are typically FAR cheaper than an equivalent quality dumb tv because the price is subsidized by selling the data they collect.

You’re best buying a smart tv and just never connecting it or setting up any of the smart features.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From what I've seen dumb TVs are usually a few hundred more than a smart TV with similar specs. In fact, I've looked in the big box stores near me and can't even find dumb TVs. Even the crappy 32-inch 720p $200 Hisense is a smart TV.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, I should have said " You still pay extra money for smart features that you do not use this way. And then to remove them".

[–] EisFrei 4 points 11 months ago

You often pay less money because of the ads the manufacturers can shove down your eyeballs.

So yes, you don't need the features, but if they subsidize the rest of the device this way I can live with it.

Just keep it off the net.

[–] Misconduct 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you pay extra? That doesn't seem to be the case anymore at all. Smart features are just kinda standard now.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You understand that smart tv needs extra hardware and constant software development and that cost of those are passed to the customer, right?

[–] Misconduct 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You understand that those components are dirt cheap now, right? Stupid TVs cost more for a reason. Smart TVs pay for their BS with the data they collect. It's part of why they can be so cheap with decent specs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

You need small computer there. With self cost + margin + software development costs you typically talk about $100-$200 extra for 4K setup with decent performance. Just look at things like apple TV. I actually do not know, did not investigate how much equivalent dumb TV cost today, but my suspicion is that it is not extra data that covers the cost but

  1. Volume of manufacturing (more smart TVs than dumb TVs are manufactured)
  2. Ability to run adds
  3. I suspect those netflixes, youtubes pay some money to be on by default and having dedicated button on remote control (which still means that customer pays, but now through subscription prices being higher)