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Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

Edit: A lot of people are asking why Beehaw did this. I want to keep this post informational and not color it with my personal opinion. I am adding a link to the Beehaw announcement if you are interested in reading it, you can form your own views. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

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[–] professor_entropy -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Why does Lemmy make it look harder than it is? It's not a massive load compared to what modern servers and applications are designed to handle.

I couldn't sign up on beehaw and lemmy.ml after multiple tries. It feels worse than a simple centralised platform one can build in a month.

Is there alternative to reddit for people like me who don't need this kind of decentralisation (Lemmy feels like centralisation, just multiple number of it, if any instance can cut off like this.) but likes the (text heavy)interface of Lemmy?

[–] cynar 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, they all seem to have died to the "Nazi bar" problem or other issues. A centralised Lemmy variant would likely either lurch to the extreme right, or be rapidly pumped for profit, like Reddit is doing.

One of the advantages of federation is the ability to disconnect groups that won't mix well. This has already happened with Lemmy. Both extreme right wing (Nazi) and left wing (communist) groups have been de-federated. They are allowed to continue happily, just away from the bulk of users. The fragmented nature also allows for server cost, and workloads to be distributed.

Additionally, Lemmy wasn't quite ready for the mainstream when Reddit decided to sh#t the bed. I've watched it improve impressively, over the last few weeks though. Once it streamlines, it should hopefully provide all of us our fix.

[–] peelon_musk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are some of the far left groups?

[–] cynar 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry for the slow reply, apparently I don't get notifications of messages through the app I'm currently using.

The left wing group of note is Lemmygrad. It was de-federated from lemmy.world before I joined, apparently by mutual agreement. It's basically a communist haven. Server updates have made it appear for a while, and them seem a lot more friendly than the far right equivalent groups.

I look at them akin to nudists. They have every right to their own space. At the same time, they happily understand that it's socially inappropriate to hold their meetings outside the local school.

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