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GenAI tools ‘could not exist’ if firms are made to pay copyright (www.computerweekly.com)

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[–] InvaderDJ 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd be fine with this argument if these generative tools were only being used by non-profits. But they aren't.

So I think there has to be some compromise here. Some type of licensing fee should be paid by these generative AI tools.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're basically arguing for making any free use of them illegal, thereby giving a monopoly to the richest and most powerful capitalists.

Humans won't be able to compete, and you won't be able to use the means of generation either.

[–] InvaderDJ 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm arguing for free commercial use being illegal, absolutely.

And that fee should scale based on who is using it for commercial purposes. Microsoft and Google should be paying far, far out the ass for their data.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And who does that serve?

[–] InvaderDJ 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean the whole thing or something specific like free commercial use being illegal?

I think the answer to both are the people who created the art, text, etc that these generative AI tools are going to make mostly obsolete.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Open source or open use AI will be practically illegal. Research will be practically impossible. It will be exclusively controlled by super rich and powerful corporations.

It won't benefit the creators. It will only benefit those with the most capital that can buy up the training data needed and then can set the market so they make almost all of the money. For example you'd need to buy all the user content from reddit, facebook and twitter to train an AI. That will cost many millions because it's a precious commodity (and only they own it). So only a few will control the "means of generation" and they will (have to) use it to make profit for themselves. This will make it practically illegal to make a free or an independent AI because you don't have access to training data. This sets the rules and will lead to incredibly bad outcomes. For example anti-consumerist thinking or dissent could be suppressed, or other more subtle biases. Anything that reduces profit from advertising or threatens the shareholders. And they can manipulate the training data behind closed doors.

But that is how it's going to go and it's going to make the effects of AI generation on our civilization extra bad. We are so fucked :(