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Kotimaan äänestysprosentti kohosi 74,9 prosenttiin (demokraatti.fi)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Abolishing the social systems and workers rights like the current government is doing will result in only more resentment that leads to even more votes for the nazi party. With their antisocial politics, Kokoomus is treading the path for spreading the hate of the fascists. Therefore, Stubb should not get presidential powers, as he will damage the well-being of the people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Workers still have rights (and there's nothing in the program of the government that suggests that workers wouldn't have rights by 2027) and while there are certainly problems with the direction of social security programs, they're by no means being abolished.

Also, with what would Stubb damage the well-being of "the people"? The president of the Republic of Finland is basically a figurehead. At most he might say something that offends some proportion of the population (to be expected, hell, even Niinistö has been careless enough to do that) but you'd really need to give some basis for what kind of harm he'd do whilst President.

And because I'm obviously biassed, I'll also clarify that this is a thing no matter who'd be president, whether the title was held by Stubb, Haavisto, Halla-Aho, Rehn, Andersson, Urpilainen, Essayah, Aaltola or even Harkimo. None of them would be even able to cause harm to the citizenry as a result of being the President. To suggest otherwise would require quite a bit of sourcing and evidence to the contrary.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The president can veto government decisions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let's remember that the presidential veto is only a suspensive veto. So if the parliament sees no reason to change the bill, it will go through even without presidential approval. The veto will also only suspend a bill for three months.

And, well, just because the president can veto a bill doesn't mean that they will do so. It'd certainly be unpopular, so such a measure would be quite extraordinary.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about that detail, but for the current fascist government, Stubb would surely be a great partner for them.

About your other comments before. You have surely heard of the planned strikes. And you know what happened last time the Nazis/neoliberalists were in power. Last time, the working time was increased for everyone, resulting in a loss of quality-of-life for everyone (except the rich of course). Now they want to remove all protections against firing people. People should be fireable without giving any reason. Does that sound positive to you?

And then for Kokoomus there is the whole part about partnering with the straight-out Nazis instead of choosing a coalition with some non-fascist parties.

[–] FreeFacts 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now they want to remove all protections against firing people. People should be fireable without giving any reason.

Why do people do this? Go to the internet and spread lies, that is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It might be an exaggeration but they aren't really lying lying. The current cabinet is setting the needle in wrong directions in many societal areas