I did a search from shitjustworks for "reddit die" and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a "ping" sent out to notify all other federated instances.

And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This works quite well usually.

I definitely don't agree. I think this is very problematic. I rely on all to find new communities. I don't think one newcommunities sub is a valid replacement. It would suffer from the same issue -- people would have to spam their post to every single instances's newcommunities sub, which is ridiculous and not even viable.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Relying on !all to have your newly created community to reach most of the people could work, but using the Scaled sort as it wouldn't have enough subscribers to push it using Hot or Active.

There is only one [email protected], it has 15k subscribers, seems like a pretty good way to promote it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm not even subscribed to that, and even if I was, and it was a default subscription for every new lemmy.world user, I don't think it's a good replacement for a functional search or an all that includes all posts from federated instances. I see lots of posts on all-hot with 0-5 upvotes so it seems fine if it actually showed all communities on federated instances (which it doesn't).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

There is a security issue by allowing automatic federation with any federated instance: an attacker could just create a huge number of communities, with a large number of posts, exhausting the resources of small instances.

That's what I guess it the main reason why it works like it does now: the server only gets the content if someone is interested.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Folks have given you a half dozen solutions here and your answer is consistently dismissive.

Did you want your problem solved or did you just want to bitch and argue?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't agree that they are solutions. The only proposed solutions are in the new github issue that someone created.

did you just want to bitch and argue?

I want lemmy to be better. I want it to be a viable alternative to reddit so people will leave that site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I want it to be a viable alternative to reddit so people will leave that site.

Most of us here do, but there is probably more benefit talking about Lemmy on Reddit that waiting for Lemmy to become perfect

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do encourage people on reddit to come here, but as another reddit mod recently said on lemmy, they're waiting for improvements on lemmy (like /r/toolbox, RES) before being able/willing to move over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

RES is here, at least for keyboard navigation

https://github.com/vmavromatis/Lemmy-keyboard-navigation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Keyboard nav is not a RES feature I've ever used. Tagging is a main one. As is subscribing to threads to be notified of new comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Hopefully those will come. Thread subscription would be nice indeed.

In the meantime, Lemmy is still usable, and I guess once Reddit will kill old.reddit, RES will stop working anyway.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i mean since you’re gonna be a twat about it, there’s an easy fucking solution: fork lemmy and adjust the federation to your liking.

if you’re not willing to do that, or any of the other workarounds in this thread, you’re just bitching to bitch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

there’s an easy fucking solution: fork lemmy and adjust the federation to your liking

Ah yes, very easy. Thanks for the suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But your solution would require every new instance to subscribe to every community in existence even if no users there care about certain ones. It's innefficient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How would you know no one cares if no one can even see them...

"Inefficient" doesn't seem important since if there's no content/activity there then it doesn't use any resources.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I agree community discovery could be improved but let's say I had an instance with 200 users and none speak German. Would it make sense for my instance to still pull everything from the German language communities and clutter an All feed where no one can read it? Or is it better to wait for a German speaking user to register and actively choose to participate in those communities before federation begins?

I think the way federation works as a whole would have to be reworked for your solution. Simply federating with all communities not on your black list isn't the best solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Lemmy is pretty centralized in practice and people are on Lemmy.world, mostly.

It's like hotmail or gmail. Default choice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

10k, which is around 25% of the whole Lemmy: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

It's reasonable. Could be better, but could be worse (Gmail is probably much more prevalent in emails)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole point of lemmy is to not be like that... so it definitely needs improvement.

[–] dezmd 2 points 10 months ago

The whole point of Redditors migration to Lemmy is to replace Reddit. You're absolutely free to deploy your own instance and develop your own fork or extensions to Lemmy's code so it works in a way you prefer on your terms.