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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So why do young men feel more represented by right-wing idiots than the "left"? I see comments going "yass slay queens" but isn't the fact half our young people are being radicalized by grifters like that sex trafficker Tate ring at least some alarm bells?

Why are we celebrating that an increasing number of young people are voting for right-wing radicals because our politics just forgot about them as if it was some kind of vindication for women?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

There is a big difference in the messaging to young men by both the parties.

Republican - "You're going to have a job, a house, a wife and kids, and all you have to do is work hard and you can live the American Dream"

Democrat - "You are the oppressor and need education on why men and white people are bad"

You can see how one is more appealing than the other, especially to those who don't pay much attention to politics and maybe only hear a 30s political clip on social media once a week.

Disclaimer: not saying these are actually the alignments/messaging, just major annecdotal perceptions I have heard from people who describe themselves as "not a Democrat" and asked them "why not?"

[–] Dran_Arcana 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

True equity isn't sexy and doesn't motivate voters or sell ad space. It's much easier to try and shine a light on the plights (real or otherwise) of as large a group as possible and pretend to be behind them. Politics and News are sales, not education.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Being named the reason for all the world's woes, while the issues affecting me being completely ignored, does not motivate me to vote either. TBH it's actually all very depressing, and I imagine a whole pile of people would say I deserve it for having the privileged genitals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What issue affecting you is being ignored? And no one of merit is saying that you are the reason for the world's woes. And while there are some extremist feminists that are actually misandrists, again it's really almost no one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mental health for example is largely ignored, especially for men, and is a minefield that I am navigating right now.

This article we're commenting on is also suggesting that the right wing shift is men's fault, that's what I'm engaging with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You also didn't say "in my country" but simply that it's being ignored. And I showed it's not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is usually implied that when people talk about their experiences, they talk about things they have personally experienced. Also it is also implied that people on the internet are not all from one country.

I wonder why did you think I lived in the US in the first place.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is usually implied that when people talk about their experiences, they talk about things they have personally experienced.

If the discussion is about the general "left/right" divide, and you are speaking more specifically about the left/right divide in your own country, it make sense to indicate that and what country you are from (of course, you've avoided mentioning what country you are from).

I wonder why did you think I lived in the US in the first place.

I wonder why you weren't more specific about what you were talking about when we are talking about the general left/right divide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I have lived in multiple countries across Europe, and I have seen what the article describes in multiple countries. I do not consider my life story to be relevant. I'm living in the Netherlands right now if that's what you're asking.

The point I'm making is that a random thing the Biden admin says it's doing is not relevant for the majority of the world, or the majority of the developed world even. I am not even sure it's relevant for everyone in the US with how polarized people seem to be.