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Scientism's assault, not Scientific-method's assault.
It is the ideology/prejudice that is adamant that Awareness/Knowing/Meaning/Will "cannot be", because they are not physical/matter.
There are, of course, 2 fundamental problems with pretending that will doesn't exist.
Pretending otherwise is .. incompetent.
It wasn't "random behaviour of particles" that created cities.
Will demonstrably exists.
All Scientism dogma that pretends that there is not "atom" of knowing ( entanglement is the "atom" of knowing ) or of will ( quantum probability-wave is the "atom" of will ) NEED to do-so, because only through prohibiting basis-for-knowing and basis-for-will can they pre-emptively win ideological-dominion.
Again, will demonstrably exists, at our scale, and it MUST have basis, in spite of Scientism's indellible belief.
The problem is that will, life, etc, all require Time in order to exist, and if one simply forces the measurement to be at too-small a timescale, then one can "prove" that they don't exist.
A single instant of 3D "photograph" of where the atoms are, in your body, cannot show whether you are growing-organism or disintegrating-corpse, right?
In order to know if you are 1 or the other of those, you need to see 2, at-least, 3D "photographs" of where all the different atoms are, in your body.
If those 2 images are 1 femtosecond apart, it still isn't possible to tell.
If those images are 150y apart, then there is no second image, or it is of your corpse, so that's useless, too.
As convenient as wrong-framing is to Scientism, the evidence, itself, shows what appropriate timescales are, consistently.
Want to show free-will?
Look at years, not minutes.
Will an individual go-along-with some social-pressure?
At the timescale of minutes, their Kahneman System-1 is likely to decide for them ( "Thinking Fast & Slow" by Daniel Kahneman, THE most-important psychology-book on the planet, these days ).
But at the timescale of years, then social-pressure, while still significant, can be rejected, defeated, mitigated, as people decide in their unconscious, to go-against System-1.
Scientism keeps working to prevent people from seeing that.
Same as ideologies of all kinds work to prevent people from noticing significant-evidence.
Fuck ideology-addiction, & its propaganda.
Awareness, defined to not-exist, hence "The Hard Problem", Knowing, Meaning, & Will, all are immaterial, and so Physicalism denies that they are real, and they all consistently produce measureable results, significant at planet-scale.
Notice that both entropy & evolution are time-parity violating, & both operate consistently for billions of years.
The common-core of the Physicalism/Existentialism/Materialism ideology rejects that there is any validity in that "symmetry" ( it isn't mirror-symmetry, but it is a kind of, or related-to, symmetry, since they each violate time-parity in the way opposite to the other: evolution is neg-entropy, obviously ).
And I'm fed-up with their gaslighting.
Cities wouldn't exist without will.
"Particles behaving randomly" can go eat rocks, as it doesn't match the data, & never has.
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