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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (8 children)

EU is slightly over 448 million people vs 332 million in the USA.
4.233 million km² in EU vs 9.833 million km^2^ in the USA.
91 billion USD equivalent support from EU (including the EU organization and EU members) versus 75 billion USD from the USA.

91/75 = 1.213...
448/332 = 1.349
If you want per capita you get 0.203 (unit not given, they are the same for each comparison) per capita from EU, versus 0.225 per capita from the USA. The numbers based on area will be a lot worse for the USA.
To be clear; yes, the USA has contributed a little more per capita, but less in absolute terms. There's a maximum of 35% difference in the populations between the EU and the USA. That's "very comparable" when it comes to such large populations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Then there is a lot of varying census data. When I searched, the site said 780 million. I wonder if some sites still include the UK and others are maybe restricting the definition to the Schengen area.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Zibitee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, he's right in that the population of EU seems to have two very different numbers. If you Google it, the first two results agree on over 700 million and it isn't until the third result that you get 400 millon. Your argument literally goes either way depending on the definition of "Europe".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

We're talking about EU here. Europe is a continent and so if people are using that in its proper usage it will encompass a lot more people - hence the discrepancy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

There's no definition of Europe at all in play here. It's the EU. A specific subset of countries, which is not the same as Europe. So what I wrote only goes one way. I'm not quite sure it's an argument, really. I presented the facts, and said that something with a maximum difference of 35% is very comparable. The first result I got through Google was the numbers I have given, which are also the official numbers from the European Union itself. That should be a lot more correct than other numbers you could find.

If you want to google it, make sure you use "EU population", not "Europe population". Or you can look at that link I gave, which gives data not just for the EU, but a lot of other European countries as well.

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