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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by ruud to c/lemmyworld
 

We'll give the upgrade new try tomorrow. I've had some good input from admins of other instances, which are also gonna help troubleshoot during/after the upgrade.

Also there are newer RC versions with fixed issues.

Be aware that might we need to rollback again, posts posted between the upgrade and the rollback will be lost.

We see a huge rise in new user signups (duh.. it's July 1st) which also stresses the server. Let's hope the improvements in 0.18.1 will also help with that.

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[โ€“] Anticorp 67 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Is it wise to do a big deployment on the day when you may receive a massive influx of new users from Reddit? The API changes take affect on the 1st.

[โ€“] TeaHands 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a bit of a lose lose situation tbh because if we don't upgrade then the first experience those new people are gonna have of Lemmy is an unusable All feed and a broken Jerboa.

My other account is on lemm.ee and the admin there contributes a lot of fixes to the software (plus has been working with Ruud to figure out our federation issues). He upgraded us a couple days ago and it's been amazingly stable given that it was only a day after the rc1 disaster.

Ultimately I trust that he and Ruud know what they're doing, but sometimes with an untestable situation like the size of .world you just have to pull the trigger and hope it works.

[โ€“] Spacebar 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Liftoff is working great. Jerboa should be held off on for now because it can't handle different server versions. Different server versions WILL always be an issue in a federated environment.

[โ€“] TeaHands 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah Liftoff is my fave too but it has the opposite problem and doesn't work with instances that are on a too-new version of Lemmy ๐Ÿ˜…

Update: FIXED!

[โ€“] MrNemobody 1 points 2 years ago

It's funny because a Jerboa fork posted a few days ago in their community can handle different versions like a charm. The oficial app should make that a priority.

[โ€“] cley_faye 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wise ? No. Useful ? Maybe. If the improvement can help with the load and the general experience, it's a good idea.

And, hm, the "site is down sometimes" experience would not be that foreign to reddit user in the first place :D

[โ€“] 0uterzenith 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Probably not, but surprisingly some 3P apps still work. I can confirm that Joey for Reddit and Infinity for Reddit are still able to access reddit. Seems like they don't pull the plug in one go? Or cherry picking the most demanding apps first?

For context, it's July 1st 16:27 p.m., GMT+9 where I am.

There might be less users influx than expected, though we'll see in the next few hours or days.

[โ€“] Anticorp 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All of the apps will work until the devs pull the plug. Maybe those devs have decided to try to eat the cost and offset with subscriptions or something. I know the Apollo dev said it would cost him twenty million dollars per month to pay the API fees, so hopefully the devs of those other apps don't go bankrupt overnight.

[โ€“] 0uterzenith 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't think so, in Apollo's last update, Christian said

Looks like Reddit pulled the plug a little early. Apollo started crashing, but I just manually revoked my token and it looks like it fixes the crashing, but no more Reddit access haha.

that makes me think it's on reddit side to pull the plug, not devs. Also each client seems to give different error code, Sync for example give out Error 401, while other client (forgot which one) have Error 429 instead.

[โ€“] SirQuackTheDuck 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think Sync got it's keys nuked. It started showing "You're being rate limited" messages at midnight (CEST) but it switched to 401 this morning.

[โ€“] Fritz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The dev for sync opted to turn it off himself on June 30.

[โ€“] zeppo 1 points 2 years ago

He said 20 million a year, not a month.

[โ€“] HolyDriver 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well website crashing all the time and jerboa crash loops. Woop, at least I've found a working alternative client now

[โ€“] Anticorp 1 points 2 years ago